Chip & Pam
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I agree with Jeff 100%. Do not let the evidence leave your possession.
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My old beast doesn’t have any holding tank odor EVER. GoneCrazy & Dick in Wisc what say you?
Mine has one vent on the roof. That’s all.
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“lube the chassis” : are there instructions or diagrams that point out all the lube spots? I assume a typical grease gun works? Type of grease? Any DIY articles on this?
Thanks, particularly about the simple note re: the oil reservoir process, makes sense to me!
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Coachcrazy,
On RV.net, a fella asked my opinion on a Liberty Coach his friend was wanting to sell. Ron told me that it looks like it’s going to Liberty Coach for evaluation (service, etc.) and may very well go up for sale at Liberty in Stuart, FL.
Here are the particulars: (copy and pasted from a post on RV.net)
I like to get your opinion about the value of an older Prevost coach. I had mentioned it before on this forum and now it looks like my friend may want to finally get rid of the coach.
It is a 2000 45′ Lady Liberty Prevost, with NO slides. It is set up with bunk beds for three kids and had all of the bells and whistles that you could get back in 2000, including in motion TV dome, etc.
It has always been kept in a climate controlled garage that I installed in the large commercial building that I built for him. The mileage on it is approximate 25,000. The exterior looks like it came from the factory with polished stainless and black exterior. I doubt if it has been used in the last 5 years so I am guessing it will need new 10 new tires and new batteries and it will require an update on the electronics, like TV’s etc. Maybe the new owner might have to invest $5,000 in it to get things up to snuff.
Cost new was slightly over $1,000,000 but my guess now is that he would be lucky to find someone to pay $150,000.
I would appreciate any input from you that I could pass on.
So, you might want to check it out as it has bunk-beds. I don’t know Ron personally nor have I ever seen this coach. Just passing on information.
Good luck,
Mark
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I was thinking of buying flex seal “as seen on TV”, but this looks better even at twice the price.
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Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Not going to say this was a manufactured “event” but like all other events that have any level (very little to significant) interruption in the refinery process/supply chain, the price will increase.
The best example of this was Katrina.
For years any little event that took place on the west coast, the price of fuel sky rocketed. Excuses were always the same. California is special, they refine their own fuels and anything that interrupts the refineries in California will cause a decrease in supply which causes an increase in prices at the pump. Can’t get fuel from anywhere else because we are special and no where else in the world do they produce special fuel to meet our requirements.
Katrina happens and within HOURS the prices in California start to go up. Reason? Refineries in the gulf are affected and therefor there is a reduction in supply.
Wait, I thought we were special and only events in California affected our supply?
Even the cost for Vaseline went up, which made the end result hurt even more 🙁
Good thing I just filled up in Lenoir City TN for $1.92 a gallon. Should get me down to Florida without needing to fill up.
I will say that in East TN, we are not seeing any major changes as of yet. Seeing diesel and gas as low as $1.98 (most around $25-$2.10). However talking to a friend of mine who is down in the ATL, they are saying stations are out of fuel and prices are way up where there is fuel.
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Guys,
On the subject of the price of diesel and gasoline based on an incident…. I am not a guru but do understand the marketplace for oil and gas products as many of our members do as well.
For a long time, the refineries on the Gulf Coast have been rigged to handle higher sulphur contented hydrocarbons…. billions and billions have been spent to expand the refinery capabilities on this coast… a great deal of this capacity has been devoted to producing diesel and gasoline. As the inventories for such products increased to unforeseen levels ( as we hit the $50 mark on oil), the refineries cut back on their oil purchases of oil thus reducing demand and creating an enviironment for lower oil prices… at least to the extent that these refinery purchases could effect the world-wide prices….and with the lower prices…. their spreads became very, very thin as the price of oil declined. You can expect that as the glut of gasoline and diesel inventories abate, that the prices will firm.
So, as an overview of a huge, complicated, world-wide interlated industry…. when we look at the various markets in where ever we may be, any temporary price movements out of the ordinary should be just that….very temporary. I am the first to say that there are those who would seek to capitalize on any adverse news …but, after a brief interlude, considering the transportation capabilities in place throughout the USA…. where “excess profits” exists, capital will be deployed in a heart beat to rectify the situation… Where we will see an increasing price could well be as the refineries try to again buy oil for refining and try to monitor thier gas and diesel inventories more effectively to protect their spreads…
All of this is to say that what has been said is correct… it’s temporary and from my view, I would encourage that no decision should be made or based on the information presented….. it is a much larger market place than an exclusive area…
Others will chime in…
Respectfully,
Pres
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Wow, these windows are a mystery, I had one broken as well. Oops, never mind, mine breaking was on video.
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Chuck: Thanks for trying to post the picture. My email is dkarth@execpc.com. Feel free to send it to me.
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Tom, I wish it was that easy. On mine, you have to remove the generator radiator, the panel behind it that directs the hot air to the ground, and then it is visible. Just barely. It is a real PITA to work on. You should have seen Jeff trying to wiggle in to change it the first time. I should have taken a picture!
Liberty does some things that just make me shake my head.
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$300 a night? The guy who owns that RV park is laughing all the way to the bank!
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thom
go down to Potomac mills and visit the Sleep Number store. We got ours at 50% off. They delivered right to our bus and we had them take the old mattress.
I pulled up the horizontal base of the bed frame at the head of the bed. I put the motor on a bracket and ran the power to the outlets by the pedestal.
we love it.
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Poor Tom and his dementia…………he still has us living in the frozen North.
There is no question if you button up your coach and turn on the AC to deal with humidity you will not experience a mold and mildew issue. But make sure if that is the path you choose to take you are also perpared to make sure the AC is working daily. Our AC units are good and reliable, but if the voltage drops or power goes off completely I don’t think all or maybe any will resume operation when power is restored so you have a closed up coach and nothing to deal with the humidity.
The real question you have to ask is what conditions you have to deal with, and what is the best way to deal with them. My coach sits in my garage in the high humidity and temps in E. TN. Last week the temps and humidity were in the 90s. But my coach is in a closed garage with temps around 78 to 80. I do nothing to deal with temps or humidity because both are reasonably constant. I have no idea what I would do where old people like Tom tend to live, but do know it would be dependent upon the conditions the bus was exposed to.
We will revisit this topic when people that live where they have real weather, and it is cold need to know how to deal with cold temps and bus storage.
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Unless you are going to move it I see no reason to start the engine or drive it just to “exercise” it.
Starting a bus creates a lot of moisture. To get rid of that moisture it has to have everything brought up to temperature for long enough to evaporate it. It takes a long time for a coach to get the engine and transmission completely warmed up.
The seals, such as hub seals, contrary to what has often been stated don’t dry out or get flat spots. They are fully centered when installed and there are no forces acting on them when the coach sits. The only concern I have for short term inactivity is tires respond well to use, and when they sit the compounds that are distributed from the flexing that comes about while driving aren’t able to do their job. Those compounds resist aging and subsequent premature sidewall cracking. Longer term storage can cause some tire rubber compounds to flat spot, but usually after a few miles of driving that is corrected.
Short answer……..don’t do anything, but if you do, drive it for long enough to get everything from the engine to the transmission to the differential up to full operating temperature for a long enough period to drive out any moisture.
Do store it with full fuel.
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Leave it alone if you don’t have a vacuum pump, you have to valve the compressor off to open the fill plug, if not you will lose all your freon and let mositure in. Darrell