[Karl]

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Rod: Check the batteries as has been suggested. Its possible you have a battery with a bad cell or something else wrong with it. I had new chassis batteries installed in May and one of them failed in October! Replaced by Interstate under warranty.

If one of them is bad and the rest of them are four years old, I understand they ALL should be replaced at one time. Someone else will have to post the reasons why, but it makes sense to me. Mine weren’t old enough for a full replacement, so I replaced just the bad one.

Following Jeff Rowe’s instructions, I removed my batteries so they could be tested and put them back in using the procedures at the following link:

http://prevostcommunity.com/forum/threaddetails.asp?Category=Electrical&ThreadID=3436

Any questions, please call me: 262-365-9088.

Then again … you might have another problem. Good luck!

[Karl]

Was Legendary a coach converter or is it a model of another converter? I see several for sale,but not sure about the converter.

Any good/bad on a Legendary coach?

[Karl]

If free iron is transferred to stainless steel rust (corrosion) will begin.

The use of steel screws, even if plated is almost a recipe to begin the process of rusting on stainless steel.

In the metal working business tools and dies are made of steel, but when working with stainless steel it is customary to use protective paper or plastic coating which prevents the transfer of iron to the surface of the stainless. As an alternative the stainless surface could be sand or bead blasted or belt sanded or treated with acid to remove any iron.

The well nuts or inserts prevent direct contact between the screws and the stainless skin so if you have corrosion it is likely because someone modified the original light mounting method used by Prevost, likely Liberty.

[Karl]

LoneStarRace wrote: “Problem 2) There is a grommet/nut thingie(I don’t know what to call it?) that the outer screws screw into to hold the fixture on. Half of these thingies? failed when trying to tighten down the new LED fixture. ”

Those “thingys” are called “well nuts” and are available from Fastenal, probably other places.

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/11237327 (Not sure if these are the actual ones used by Prevost.)

Our coach has the stainless steel “clamshells” fastened to the coach side that the marker lites “fit” into. I’ve bought some LED lites and lens from Bill the Chromeman to replace the existing lights. He has a little write-up on the subject in this thread:

http://prevostcommunity.com/forum/threaddetails.asp?Category=Chassis&ThreadID=4129

I’ve taken a few of the lights apart to see what is there and awfully surprised what I found. As LoneStarRace describes, the assembly is held in place by four screws. The outside screws were stainless steel and holds the lens onto the base; screw passes through the lens, through the base, through the clamshell into, and into the wellnuts. The wellnuts are neoprene and the screw goes into a brass fitting inside the neoprene which draws up against the inside of the bus shell. So far, so good.

The inside pair of screws were another matter. These screws go through the base, through the clamshell, and into the stainless steel side of the coach and one of the two is also the ground for the light. Bill the Chromeman said the screws used by Prevost cut their own threads in the stainless steel side of the coach (when you get one out, you can see the threads in the coach side). Every pair I’ve looked at after taking the lens off have been heavily corroded, and I CANNOT emphasis HEAVILY corroded enough. I’ve been able to get a few of out.

In some cases there was enough of the (Phillips) head left I could get the screw out. In at least one case the head of the screw popped right off. (Low level panic light started to flash.) The other inner screw on that light came out so I could remove the lite base and SS clamshell and I was able to grab the headless screw sticking out with a small Vise-Grips and carefully turned the screw out (panic light turned off). But in a number of cases the screw head was so corroded that I couldn’t get the screw to move, the head didn’t pop off, and the Phillips grooves in the screw head slowly disintegrated in front of me (but the head is still intact). My neighbor gave me some left hand drills to try on them. Maybe the left hand drills might “grab” the screw and turn it out (maybe at least far enough I can grab it with the Vise-Grips).

So … four screws in each light, two stainless steel and two are regular steel (whatever you call that). I’ve taken two or three clamshells off so far and there is a circle of rust on the stainless steel panel of the coach about an inch in diameter around each of the non-stainless steel screws.

I was really, really surprised (actually disappointed) that Prevost would use non-stainless steel screws for this outside application.

[Karl]

What happen ? OMG…

[Karl]

BA

Get yourself some steel on that H you won’t have to worry about it.

Your only friend in the LQ.

Later

bv

[Karl]

I called Explorer this afternoon and their quote for National Interstate was $4200, which is $1800 less than the quote from Miller for the same National Interstate. I forwarded to my local agent who pointed out that Explorer quoted 30 days or less per year. While there is the possibility of going for longer (we did this year) I don’t see how they could ever prove that.

I have emailed Laura at Explorer tonight to see if she can find for me what ACV would be if I sustained a total loss today. We will see…..

Insurance is such a racket.

[Karl]

and have never activated the old Sat dome service. Eventually switched to Dish service but am cancelling that now because we hardly watch TV at all and when we do, it is usually a PPV movie on Amazon Prime which, unlike Dish, we can watch on our schedule, not theirs.

As regards local channels, I purchased one of these flat plastic panel interior HDTV antennas, which you can pick up in many places (think Amazon, for instance) for about $500 to $750 – Just make sure that it is a powered antenna, i.e. comes with a plug-in power supply). The powered antennas have better reception.

The drawback with these OTA (over the air) antennas is that you have to rescan channels in every new location to find out what is available.

But, as stated above, TV is unimportant to us and we take what we can get. Or, we pay for a PPV movie or, as Amazon Prime members, we do have access to literally thousands of FREE movies.

If all else fails, we do still have a BD/DVD. The last time we used it must have been 2 years ago.

Anyway, the point of this post is, that you do not necessarily have to buy the expensive Wingbat upgrade.

An inside mounted antenna will probably work just as well.

Cheers,

Ronald

safely parked in Sevierville’s Two Rivers Landing RV Resort.

[Karl]

We did it from TX in 2010. AWESOME!! Got 1 rock chip in WS. Had it repaired in the 1st town that offered such service. The road/ALCAN was fine except for the “frost heaves” between Whitehorse, CA and the Alaskan border. Put Koni adjustable shocks on the front and set them on their stiffest setting. We’ll do it again someday.

The Milepost travel guide is priceless. Have one in hand. http://www.milepost.com

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Colt,

You really should consider taking your bus. It’s really not nearly as bad as all the stories I heard and read. Everyone told us get fuel and food everywhere you see it…. don’t pass a station.. etc.. it was nothing like that.. food and fuel most everywhere. The AK highway was as good or better than many roads in the Lower 48 except for one part between destruction bay and Tok.. If you took it slowly no worries.

Bill

[Karl]

After so much anticipation … what a disappointment.

[Karl]

Ron

passed you on I-81 just south of Carlisle Pa. today We were heading the wrong way (north) on our way to Elite Coach in Ephrata, Pa. to find out why we don’t have drivers heat or defroster. S..tty weather!

Update Tom “captain” Morgan @ Elite found the problem in about 10 minutes after I mentioned that the radiator had been replaced this summer…….they forgot to turn a valve on in the feed line from the Webasco!!!

BTW Elite Coach has a great reputation, does a lot of Prevost work, seated and private coachs.

[Karl]

Can’t miss it. Look for the pizza boxes and the Dunken Donuts bags along the highway.

[Karl]

I think it’s pathetic that Michelin don’t produce more 365’s… we have had to wait on them too and then drive to Tennessee to get them.

As we would say in Australia “bloody” pathetic service from Michelin !!