Jerry
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Doug, Anyone can visit as far as I know..I’ll dbl ck Thurs. If you want to unplug and bring the bus there are suddenly
2 sites available. Email me coreygrubb@yahoo.com with your phone #. Dianne, looking forward to seeing you and Larry at Lakeland. Geo.
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It would take 30 mins to type everything but I’ll try to give you some basic stuff.
Drivers area is partitioned off and not dressed like a normal conversion. Entrance not finished off.
Your power management is completly different, you have 1 inverter instead of 2, 2 house batteries instead of 6 which is fine but you have no capacity so you must run the generator if you want to sustain any livability or hook to shore power. I would think in a year and a half that bus has 10,000 hours on the generator, which is fine but most guys with that little battery capacity run 2 generators and never shut one down. Basicly if your going down the road the generator is on.
You have 125 ft power cord, most are 25 to 75 ft. If they pull to the back of a venue the power is scarce, you need all of that.
5 roof airs instead of 4, I’m sure one is dedicated to the bunks. They advertise full bus a/c and heating. It might also have bus air for going down the road.
The grey tank is 100 gallons, larger than most 70 gallon setups. It also says it has a 100 gallon grey and black split tank. You should check that, most converters have about 160 combined. One rule on a tour bus is none of the commoners shits on the bus.
There’s alot more but I can’t think of it right now.
Later
bv
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I received my new cards and the expiration date is 2021.
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my coach is covered under our company policy with donegal insurance (owned by nationwide) , which I cannot vouch for them covering personal coaches but at least for me the added Busse to our policy cost a little under $1400
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When I renewed my policy I got hit with sticker shock. I am with Miller and they scoured the market, but the bottom line is the premiums took a big hit and the competition is slim.
Compared to the value of my coach versus my cars, my bus insurance premium is a bargain.
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Thanks Al, one more mystery solved.
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On libertys the circulation pump stays on all the time if the Webasto button is on even if the heat exchangers and fans are not on so there is hot coolant at the ready when the thermostat calls for heat when parked the motor heats the coolant when driving
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Top part like sun shade
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I have had several but the Roadmaster All-Terrain series always unlatches. I have watched guys beating on their tow bars trying to get them released but have never had to man-handle the All Terrain.
I have the tow bar that mounts on the toad and drops over a ball hitch, and I have one that goes in the receiver on the bus and connects to the toad with pins. By far I prefer the one that drops over the ball because unlike the one that slides in the reciever on the bus I can use an adjustable height ball hitch so the tow bar is always prefectly level when towing. At one time in FMCA magazine articles they made it a big deal to point out the tow bars need to be horizontal to work best with the least stress on them.
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I finally got an internet connection working and I am reluctant to comment.
My advice Mike is to set up the coach like any of the professionals have done on production units. They are simple, robust and reliable. What pushed my away from wanting to get involved is the use of the word “cheap Chinese” inverters. At the very least you should have good documentation for installation and it should be followed. Lacking that I see issues in your furture.
If jy understanding is correct it is a 12Volt inverter which means the house has to have 12 volt battery pack(s) so a second 12 volt alternator is needed. That does not complicate anything other than adding another device to be driven by the engine.
Having a 12V house means the current draw for heavy loads like the AC is going to be twice the amperage of the 24V house systems so make sure wiring size and battery capacity is factored in.
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Bob, Thanks here are the answers to your questions. This was a seated coach I am building out.
1) Your chassis, is it 24/12V like many Prevost? Yes That means it has some 24V loads and some 12V loads. If so, you should find a Vanner (or similar) equalizer already there. Is there one already there for the chassis? Yes Is there the standard large frame 50DN alternator running at 24V? Yes
2) Can you provide a make model for the inverter? It is a inexpensive Chinese made inverter 5000 watts 10,000 watts peak Pure sine wave. Also have a 6000 watt 1200 watt peak modified wave.
3) What voltage will drive your interior lighting? 110volt
4) What is your refrigeration and planned galley equipment? 110 volt refrig. and microwave, toaster and coffee pot.
5) What is your air conditioning equipment? OTR coach heat and air for traveling. Goodman air handler with electric heat and trane 2 ton condensor when shore hooked up.
6) Will you have a generator? Eventually, possibly 2 years, looking at a water cooled 15 kw kubota on slide
7) If the inverter doesn’t have a charger, what plans do you have for an AC to DC Charger? I have a 110 volt charger but no way to use on the road.
8) What do you want to run while on the highway? Refrig., TV, up to 15-20 watt lights. Just refrigeration is easier than that and air conditioning.
How far along are you in the conversion? 75%, using it to stay in at out of town job. Plumbing is done. Electrical is done to breaker panel with shore power hookup. Got to install ceiling, build 2 cabinets and build 3 interior doors. Installed a 30 gal. 110 volt electric water heater to only work on shore power. I do not want any propane on board, Just my preference.
I will install a manual switch over (even if it means plugging and unplugging the power by hand) from shore to inverter/ generator for now. Eventually I will do some sort of automatic transfer switch. Just trying to get the basics for right now. Hooking up a battery to a inverter is no problem. Question I have is how many batteries I will need and how to recharge them back on the road. Maybe my 600 million dollar net worth brotherinlaw could cut me a check and I could go get me a store bought. Haha, probably not going to happen. Thanks Bob!
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Prevost Service – We very much appreciate your input on the forum, keep up the good work.
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Jon summed it up very, very well. (It seems like he always does that!) The values of our coaches and the liquidity of the coach market (the ability to sell on a timely basis) is basic Economics 101. I wish I would have known about The Incredible Bank when we bought our coach as I would have probably financed it rather than liquidating investments in a lump sum. Leaving that money in the market as it rose would given me the appreciation on the lump sum that I could have spent with Jeff Rowe on upgrades!
Since we have a coach that is 17 years old, 20 year financing is very important to us. Hopefully with favorable experience The Incredible Bank will push that out to 25 years on increditble Prevost motorhomes.
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Yeah, I agree with Bernie. It is not inside the transmission and is not that hard to get to. Should not be anywhere close to $40000
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David…
The man who knows all about this stuff is Gil Johnson… he is probably reading this note…
I did not acquire clearance lights… I acquired a stop light… if that is what you are seeking to replace, here is my information and experience with the stop light.
I purchased a Whelen 70 BTT stop light plus the chrome bisel… it is in reality an ambulance light with probably 50 LEDs in it… it is bright. It runs about $100 plus or minus… When installing, after it is in place, talk to someone about how this is to be done correctly but a 12V source is to put in contact with one of the wires (Neg or positive and I do not know which one at the moment) and held there until it flashes 4 times and then goes on permanently. The brake remains pressed down for a few seconds. After that, the brake gets reapplied, I believe again. I could only get one flash and then permanent on… I simply did not do it correctly.
Nonetheless, it is a super substitute for the brake light on the coach.
Whelen is a provider of all types of emergency lights as you will see on the site.
I wish I could be more accurate as to how the connection works. I will endeavor to work on mine again and let you know.
Pres