[Glenn]

Are you literally turning the inverters off or did you mean turning off the major loads before plugging in? Just to clarify…

It is normal for the Trace Inverters to hold the batteries at Bulk on the first return of an AC input source after being in the invert mode for a length of time. The default time of this is 3 hours. I ABSOLUTELY agree, the temp sensors MUST be both functioning, and both on the same battery for all to be well with the world. Here is how to see if they are both working properly:

1) Push the Red & Green buttons at the same exact time, which takes you into the Setup Menu #9.

2) Using the Menu Heading right button, advance the screen to #20, “End of User Setup”

3) Push the Red & Green buttons at the same exact time, which advances you to Menu #21, Advanced Diagnostics “Temperatures”

4) Use the Menu Items Down, the far left button, go down to Battery Temp Counts. This is a value from 0-255. It is not the actual temperature, just a representation of the Analogue to Digital converter based on what the temperature reading is. If either has 255 for a reading, the Battery Temp sensor is open-circuit. It could be a bad connection at the inverter board, a bad connection or corroded coupler, or a failed temp sensor itself.

Example: If one inverter reads 255 for counts, the inverter assumes ambient temp is 70-degrees. In normal summertime temps, the value should be in the low 100’s and BOTH should be within 10 counts of each other! If they are not, look to make sure they are next to each other on the SAME BATTERY, and if one is 255, start looking for bad connections along the cable to the sensor.

Lack of battery temp sensor input to the inverters can cause the inverters to either undercharge the batteries in cooler than 70-degree temps, or Overcharge them, resulting in gassing of the pressurized AGM batteries. If the pressure relief valves open to vent excess gas, it can never be replaced and the battery will experience premature failure that is NOT covered under any warranty.

Things that make inverters stay in bulk longer than the 3 hour limit are:

1) inconsistent battery temp readings.

2) large ac load amps downstream of the inverters that reduce the charge rate, taking longer to finish off the charge cycle.

3) bad house batteries, causing the “return amps” the inverter sees to make one or both of them think the batteries are not fully charged.

[Glenn]

Sorry for the response delay on the subject…it’s been a crazy week for me.

The component parts that are likely to fail, as with ALL circuit breakers, are the motorized breakers. If I owned one of these coaches, I would have at least 2 of the 15-amp, 2 of the 20-amp, and 2 of the 30-amp sizes for spares.

As for the Power Interface Module, if you are really concerned, you could purchase one, but these are VERY LOW failure items. The Vantare setup did not utilize the Programmable Controller interface panel that was available. The Breaker Interface Module (and all the components that make it up) and Upstairs Breaker Switch panel make up the “User interface” for controlling the motorized breakers.

As far as fixing/upgrading/updating the system, it shouldn’t be necessary unless there is major component failure. I have replaced the entire system after an unqualified “technician” got into one on a coach that came in and burned up all the communication modules in the Breaker Interface Module box. Please!, don’t let ANYONE (except at this point myself or Donnie) even open up the Breaker Interface Module in the bay, or the Upstairs Breaker Switch panel. Lack of knowledge can cost you a bunch, as most of these items are no longer available and were custom-ordered and assembled by Vantare.

[Glenn]

It has to make sense. When does a simple wall switch for lights such as the lights in the kitchen / dinette area make less sense than having to use an ipad, smart phone or Crestron? It doesn’t.

[Glenn]

MM we have a 5 trumpet train whistle mounted behind the front bumper. It was so loud that our dog Maddie nearly had a heart attack when I used it.

Then I received a little guidance from Mary Ellen. It was not good. The CB is helpful getting the scoop from the truckers due to wrecks on the highway.

FWIW…. less attention the better when you travel.

[Glenn]

Gil,

would the Bose sound still work? my bose is the only sound out of my TV ?

Diane

[Glenn]

Here’s the simple explaination.

If you have a 20KW generator it is almost a certainty you can run everything you can turn on in the house and still not exceed its capacity.

Forget what the amp gauges say.

When on shore power then you do have to do some power management.

[Glenn]

Now I’m not saying that Jon isn’t a grumpy old fella but he does have a point.

I’ve not had a need to shut off any plumbing fixtures yet on my vintage Liberty (yet!) but if I ever do it will be ever so convenient and sure.

Not to say that I haven’t admired the nice looking plumbing that Tom has, I’m just sayin…

[Glenn]

Same problem using card also, one store took it the other didn`t however I asked for another discount & they gave me a teachers discount and do each time I go their. I`m not a teacher either but they want my continued business & I frequent it.

[Glenn]

Jonnie is right.

Two elements, one 1650 watts ( 120VAC ) and 4500 watts ( 240VAC ). Model 431XE/12.

I guess if you had only 30Amps that arrangement gives you the 1650 watt element. I find the two elements quite nice, esecially when heating the coach. I enjoy the silence of electricity ( when pugged in ) and conserving my diesel fuel for driving.

Russ – 99′ Newell

[Glenn]

thanks, thought it was separate from aqua hot.

[Glenn]

Thanks Jon that helps, then I still need the cartridge specific to the DEC II and a cable. Right?

[Glenn]

Kaibab camper village RV park.

JIM

[Glenn]

If you have the ECC cabinet in the first bay with all the cards in it similar to the one you show in you pics look on the cards in that cabinet.

Everything CC goes througe those cards and they have fuses on them.

I have a 98 so there could be some differences. I also have a regular headlight switch but for the other lights I have the SunMullion switches like you have.

Good luck.

[Glenn]

Truk,

Thanks.. I think I got it to work… but Leon at Marathon arranged for me to swing the bus by Pacific power down the street and they hooked me up to the DD diagnostic Link and found 3 fault codes.

May 26, 2013 one count of Air inlet temp high

Then the other two engine power derate due to intake manifold temp and VNT vanes not responding – EGR were between 255 and 454. I just had the CAC replaced in Mira Loma which the tech here said would be consistent with the codes I was receiving… Unfortunately, Prevost didn’t check and clear the codes… so we have no real way of seeing if they were current or from before the CAC replacement.

Then with the use of the laptop they were able to activate the VNT vanes and something else that I forgot what they called it but something moved up and down and they said everything was working as it should…

So for now… I think we are going to go with it.

They cleared the codes and this way if anything shows up I know it will be current.

Bill

[Glenn]

Sawbonz…

Thanks .. we are loving the Liberty… and yes I always say how much I like the Vantare and I still do it’s a great bus… the switch is a huge learning curve for me… the Crestron has almost gone through the window a few times… very frustrating to learn… but I’m getting there… the finish throughout the coach is amazing and the bays. are just to die for… of course bare in mind we’re moving from a 98 to an 05. As always there are some things I’d like to change but for now I need to learn all this stuff… its has been very entertaining so far !! Y’all need to pray for me !! LOL

Cheers,

Diane