Peter
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You would not experience the lack of understanding with a Liberty sales person, they know their product.
On another note, I prefer the single holding tank. I think grey water mixed with black water using one drain is way better than two seperate tanks. With Liberty’s using the Headhunter toilet, there is nothing but liquid in the holding tank. One tank sensor for fresh water, one for holding tank. Less to go wrong comparted to 3 sets of tank senors and 3 dump valves.
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Give me sticker shock !
1 clear len
1 amber lens
1 stainless beauty ring moulding
Mounting hardware
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There is nothing expensive that a Prevost inspection is going to reveal. That’s a relative term. Specifically you don’t need Prevost to tell you you have hub seal leaks, They cannot tell you if the coolant was changed per schedule, they are unlikely to check the date on the air bags, and unless the coach is left with them for several days with instructions to evaluate it for air leaks and the leans you won’t get that information. They have a lot of boxes to check on the form, but almost all of the check marks come from a visual inspection so only after you buy a coach do you realize you need shocks or air bags, or that coolant has never been changed.
The most valuable thing you can get in evaluating a coach is copies of the service history, and I mean the entire service history. Oil changes, lubes, Transynd changes, repairs, are all part of the character of a coach and unless the seller can present that level of detail most PDIs that you pay for are superficial. The best PDI is service history combined with spending a couple of days with the coach operating every single button, knob and switch to verify everything functions as it is supposed to, combined with a good visual inspection of the underside and a satisfactory report from Detroit / Allison
I would however have a delam inspection done.
We beat on this theme endlessly and it is priceless when you can buy a coach that has full documentation along with a complete service history. Absent that information you are rolling the dice. Based on the age of the coach unless someone could prove otherwise I would mentally deduct the cost of a total and complete replacement of all fluids, filters, belts, hoses, etc. along with all Norgrens, air bags, shocks etc. The fluids, filters, etc. is to zero out the routine service so you have a starting point, the suspension stuff is because at that age it is past due.
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hello Gregg,
I see you currently have an h-3 and looking at going to an XLII, if possible can you provide some feedback as to your thouhghts why you are going to an XL after having a H-3, positives & negatives for each type of coach.
Thanks.
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Well, today was the ‘big’ test drive of a 2014 Prevost with the 500 hp Volvo engine with 1,750 lb. ft. of torque.
First observation… very nice start off. We were able to to take the BIG hill on I-10 to the Chriaico Pass where I slowed to about 50 mph. I find that acceptable, we drove at least 50-60 miles round trip. The coach had about 3/4 tank of fuel. One thought that came to mind was that a larger engine would be heavier and use more fuel. There have to be some trade offs.
The steering was very smooth, the coach also rode smoothly. Small issue was that there was a very annoying rattle behind the driver area. I think it was a window shade or something in a cabinet. I’m sure it could be fixable but I wish it was not there to show how quiet the Prevost chassis could have been. Our Monaco coach is quieter suprisingly.
The driver’s seat has a shock absorber and it was throwing me to each extreme which was not very good. Finally, the sales guy figured out how to soften the motion then it was OK. But, for a while there, It was hard to keep my feet on the pedals. The steering wheel adjustment is controled by a pedal that you cannot see in the far upper left of the foot-well area. Once found, it allows the steering wheel to be adjusted forward/backwards/up and down.
We couldn’t figure out which button was the exhaust brake so I couldn’t use it. Somewhere along the line Marathon moved the button and it was not easy to find. So, I just had use of the service brakes which worked well but you have to press that baby to stop!
I would prefer a more electric driver’s seat. It was obvious that I would not have been able to just jump in the coach and drive off. It is very different than any other normal everyday coach.
There is a ‘jack-rabbit’ switch that needs to be pushed to keep the engine at a higher RPM. We can do that with the cruise control. There was a ESR light that kept coming on (if I have the letters correct) that I want to see what it was for.
MM.
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when you do this you need to have your front switch ON position..read the proceedure.. the switch on the dash controls more than start function. If not someone could steal your bus by opening the engine door flipping the rear start and breaking in window and GO. Two switches there front or rear start select rear start (with key start on) enguage start button/or toggle switch… to switch back to front with bus running quickly switch between rear start selection and front start so next time if you so desire you can start from drivers seat. Many have started from rear and forgot to switch back to front start(even mechanics at shop) and next time can’t get bus to start from front…These switches should be labeled with front and rear start if yours is missing mine was up for front. FWIW Be careful when using rear start feature to not get tangled in any moving parts because some elect boxes are located where you need to reach over fan belts…. Bob
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Tom, great info on a product that doesn’t appear available anywhere else. The problem many will face with the conventional G-4 replacement bulb is that the reflector in conventional fixtures are significantly blocked by these bulb replacements replacement. Most LEDs are highly directional, so they need to be aimed at were you need the light given they get little benifit from the fixture based reflector. That’s why I like the disc versions for the ceiling mounted halogen fixtures most of us have.
Until you provided this information I was recommending this one that has 7 LEDs that are downward directed. http://www.tmart.com/G4-27LED-5050-LED-Light-Bulb-Nightlight-with-Warm-Light-3000K-Highlight-12V_p183892.html?fixed_price=hk_intl&utm_source=base&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=88012318&utm_campaign=product&gclid=CPbf0YH-37wCFQ_l7AodjFAA7A
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Broke up the winter cycle–a little excitement with nothing really life threatning…I’m sure today will be back to normal. Real upside putting new antifreeze in bus today..First time since engine install– one atep closer to start up..Running out of excuses… For those that know me I don’t get in a hurry and family trumps bus..Plus I tend to do things differant than what is considered the tried and true..(sometimes this takes more than one try).. sunny skies and smooth roads to all today…Bob
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Davy,
The manual start in the engine bay could be you’re problem. Sometimes just cycling the switch takes care of the problem.
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Time is slipping away. If you intend to go to the rally at Lazy Days sign up now before the deadline.
I revised the agenda to give more specific detail regarding the rally and it promises to have some great seminars and activities.
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You could also put new ones on and use them if you want CB communication. Firestick makes that mount.
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Something that has not been discussed is how you would do anything on the roof of the coach with such low clearance….I have 16′ clearance and that is marginal for getting on the roof and doing anything meaningful. I can get by, but would like to have more room…
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David I have Morton building with 14 foot walls and scissor truss , it makes it quite high in center I have 12 wide door by 14 high 70 wide by 180 long they are the best buildings. Took them 9 days from start to finish and no mess after to clean up, not that this helps you expect the scissor truss part.
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Mine is 13’4″ overall to the top of the dome. And, I just verified that my ride height is correct.
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Don’t think it will hurt you mechanically but the sound outside might make some think you are hauling a NASCAR driver. I also have a 99. I will probably have the same issue at some point.