Harry
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I would love to see that procedure performed!
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The guy that did the photo instructions was our web developer, he knows just a little about all this web development stuff and says I.E. is nothing but junk. If your using I.E., there are other instructions in the problem solving topic. Using Chrome, Firefox or Safari is the answer for using this site.
Using Chrome and Firefox on your desktop or laptop requires nothing more than 5 clicks and you’re done with a photo. The photo file must be GIF, JPG, JPEG, BMP or PNG.
Click on the little square with sun and tree
Click upload
Select your file
Select your picture
Click OK, you’re done
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Harry,
Your explaination finally makes sense regarding your progress, but that is exactly the kind of information needed when seeking help via email or the forum. When any piece of information is left out or not fully explained the help you get in the form of advice lacks accuracy.
One theme that your mechanics seem to have ignored is when something doesn’t work you have to get to the basics and that means you have to start at the beginning (your batteries) and progress systematically through the system checking components and connections through the circuits.
I have a real problem seeing how a failed relay (solenoid) in the electrical box can take a starter out of service. But then again it is still not clear when trying to start the coach if it spun initially, and if it did how long it spun. Just knowing that simple piece of information which was asked for will redirect the diagnosis. You become the eyes and ears of those attempting to help. If things are as they should be on any of our coaches an engine that turns over (spins) when starting is going to be running in about 2 seconds. If it does not start within a very short length of time continued spinning via the starter is not going to help the starter, batteries or all the solenoid or relay contacts.
If it spins but does not start all attention goes to verify the DDEC module is getting power and working, or it goes to verifying fuel is being delivered to the engine.
If it is not spinning the attention for diagnosing goes in a different direction.
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uh ohhh. Look what I found !! -
Still waiting for shots of the Beaver!
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Jon, I think you are interpolating the following based on limited feild data to go on.
1) ddec not getting proper voltage or otherwise not functioning. 2) extended crank time or previous extended crank times that possibly damaged the starter.Inop computer (91 vintage ddecll) would not in and of itself cause the starter not to function. I just want to make sure I understand how this would work. Please Advise. Thanks, Jeff
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should be a 12 volt reset button red. Or a inline fuse close to battery/inline. Your ddec is 12 volt feed off one battery in the 24 volt system. It must be 11.6 volts or greater for the ddec to function. Had problem with one bad battery that caused simular problems on a 1989 =8v92.
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Both of you are bat shit squirrel nuts…I know…I’ve only been gone a short time. Comming back shortly and hopefully inject some “sanity”. Geo.
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You have no idea how bad your decision is to go with black shades.
It sounds like even Liberty is recognizing the use of black shades was a very very bad choice.
If you are facing the sun when parked and with the shades down to try to keep cool the front 6 or more feet of the coach will feel extremely hot even with the front Cruiseair running continuously. I would not accept our current Liberty without the shades being changed to a light color because the previous Liberty with the black shades was impossible to cool with the black shades in front.
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1984 was the body change from the 96″ wide Le Mirage to the 102″ wide Le Mirage XL. The electrical system was all 24 volt on the chassis side. 12 volts was made availabel at post #70 in the front electrical junction box and was for low draw items such as radios, cb, etc. The headlights were 12 volt but worked on a setup that put 24 volts into one contact of the left headlight and the remaining voltage was then connected to one of the lugs on the right headlight. Theother lug on this headlight went to ground. Thus they were using the combined voltage drops across the two head lights to use up the 24 volts. All the other internal and external lights were 24 volt. The coach alternator was 24 volts. System set up as follows:
If there are Vanners in a 1984 they were installed by the converter. While you get 12 volts at the middle terminal ofthe Vanner, it was not created to be a power device by itself. It is as it is called an “equalizer”. It allows you to remove larger amounts of 12 volt power from you batteries without having the batteries bcoming unbalanced for load. It is really a sharing device that transfers power from the upper batteries (the ones connected to the 24 side batteries to the lower side batteries 12 volt where the power is being consumed more quickly.
As noted by people above the Vanner tries to keep the two 12 volt banks of batteries equalized to within 1/2 volt. If the load on the 12 volt side exceeds the rating of the Vanner then damage occurs and they eventually fail.
Prevost began using a 35 amp. Vanner when they started using ATEC Allison transmissions. The engine was still mechanical and the transmission was electronically controlled.DDEC ! engines were used in motor home shells in 1986 and DDEC 2 came in in 1988. With the inclusion of an electronically controlled engine and transmission Prevost went to 60-50 Vanner (50 amps).
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Does anyone have any ideas?
Call me anytime at 509-467-6281
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Co-Pilot for Trucks which allows you to set your height, etc.
i upgraded for a couple bucks which gives me traffic updates and some more details.
Jon should know this, but NY parkways are only cars. Gorgeous to drive in your car …definitely not your Bus!
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We use Co-Pilot with traffic, and a Rand McNally Trucker’s Atlas, plus google maps as a back-up.
Generally we’ve been happy with co-pilot, but there have been two times which it was wrong. One of them was in Up State NY. “Stay off anything that says “Parkway” which are for cars only because of the low stone bridges. Ask me how I know…
Live ve by the GPS … die by the GPS.
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I used “Maps” on the iPhone coming home from Austin and it did a good job. But as Andy siaid;
“For bus navigation I will steer you towards a GPS that is designed specifically for larger rigs as it removes a level of risk associated with traveling in unknown areas and getting caught in a situation where you may not have the appropriate clearances.”
“I’ll steer you away from Apps such as Waze that use traffic flow to reroute you to a faster or shorter route as shortcuts could be a recipe for disaster when it sends you down a narrow street. “
Two excellent points and the comment Jon made: ”Don’t make the mistake of trying to hold a phone or play with the GPS while driving. None of us is good enough to allow ourselves to be distracted.
That is so right… I bought a holder for my 6s iPhone so it was a little to the right of me and braced by the front of the dash so it didn’t move. I could reach it and I did a few times, but its not a recommended practice!
Not long ago I bought the RV version of CoPilot ($450) for iPhone/iPad and found something interesting. I’m going to Clark Power Services in Knoxville next week and I put the address into Apple Maps, Google Maps, and CoPilot (car version). All three showed the same three routs (you could pick any one of the three ways) to get me there and one of the routs was taking 129 through the “Dragon Tail” which no motorhome on earth should go through.
Then I changed CoPilot from car version to RV version (you can toggle between the two) and it then showed only one rout which I knew to be the best from the motorhome standpoint. I was pleased to see it took into account the bus information I provided and showed just the one rout!
CoPilot lets you put in length, weight, height etc and it obviously took it into account and that’s a good thing. What I don’t like is it has trouble recalculating. If I have a rout set and I vary from it like pulling off the road for lunch, it has trouble recalculating from the change in plan. If I restart it from my new location it recalculates fine! I wish it would figure it out on its own and maybe it would. But out in the hinterlands when I’m someplace I don’t know, is not where I want hesitation! I have a 5 year old Garmin that I’ve never updated the maps and it recalculates almost immediately. But as I said earlier, it can also recalculate in the middle of a major city and put you in a real trick bag! It’s done it to me a few times in the car. I don’t want it to happen in my bus!
I guess nothing is perfect but I do like the “off line maps” like CoPilot has.
But I hear what you have to say about the RV versions of Garmin and Rand McNally!
Harry
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I can’t imagine most toad brakes having much effect.