Dick
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No problem, anything I can do to work off those extraordinarily expensive annual dues.
Fred
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If your Austin visit allows time, Becky just reminded me that Roundtop, one the largest antique fairs on the planet, is in full swing. It’s in Roundtop Tx due east of Austin and engulfs the surrounding towns. It’s quite an event if you have the time and inclination. Warrington and Marbuger are a couple of the big venues.
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Jon Wehrenberg probably has a case of those that he uses for his cell phone.
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Let’s just say when that was floated as the reason and in essence placed the blame on the problem on the converters that went over like a fart in church.
It is known that is not the reason why the problem happened.
Many subsequent theories have been advanced ranging from process control to poor choice of product, but regardless of why it now appears the issue is gone and Prevost stood tall in dealing with the problem.
All of us that have had XL coaches which preceded the non-rivet coaches are well aware of how the skins will heat up in the sun, expand and then make some strange noises doing so. Then as the sun goes down and the skins cool there are addiitional sounds. Converters don’t have to heat up the skin polishing it because the sun does a beter and more widespread job of heating up the panels.
If in fact Prevost really believed the issues were the result of polishing it would be very simple to make the skins from factory polished stanless steel sheets and far less expensive in the long run hand polishing an entire coach.
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Mark, I think I mentioned this before but I feel a need to remind you that as the owner of a new coach it is customary to provide all rally goers with a small gift. Perhaps his and hers Rolexes or diamond bracelets.
I wouldn’t kid you, would I?
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No need to remove the window frames. The glass is easily removed with the frame in place.
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I’ll keep an eye on the Tag’s for unusual wear. I did the same thing last time I replaced the steers and never had any issue. In reference to the OP. I believe a failure on a steer can kill you or someone else. Generally (I know from experience) a failure on a tag just costs a lot of money. I would be very concerned with what the OP has on his steer axle. Off hand I know of 3 people that lost a steer tire. One of them rolled the coach, one ran off the road into a tree and died and the other almost lost control.
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I will run through one in the next week or two and report back!
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Like Jeff said, first cut the caulk around the perimeter of the glass with a utility knife. Then you can pry the glass out. Next, spend three hours cutting and cleaning out the rest of the caulk in the seating channel and clean any residue from the glass. Sikaflex from Prevost is the oem stuff to buy. They will send you two 10oz tubes at 11 dollars each. I only needed one. Mask off the area around the outside and inside of the channel for easier clean up. Put a bead of sikaflex in the channel and push the glass in. If the gap around the glass is not full, fill it. Working time is short for clean up.
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When the economy went to hell it was really ugly and a lot of things happened that made no sense.
Some converters dumped inventory. That devalued all the coaches. Some who financed their coaches got upside down and those coaches ended up in the market at prices that were so low it damaged the value of all other coaches.
All of a sudden people could buy a Prevost at incredibly low prices in some instances, and some of the buyers who “stole” their coach were not in a position to properly maintain them. On this forum we have read of members who bought a coach and found they had some serious costs required to restore some coaches that hadn’t been properly taken care of.
It appears we are getting past the insanity and we now rarely hear of someone buying a coach for bargain prices. What I hope is that if the market grows and is met by the converters we do not ever return to a period in which the bottom of the market falls out as quickly and drastically as happened a few years ago. Maybe, just maybe we can also see a slower rate of depreciation because when values dropped so far, so fast it was hard to justify maintaining or upgrading coaches.
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I’ve also wondered if what Jon suggests would have a market. One of the things I struggle with is pulling the Series 60 and the Allison transmission and replacing those units. From what I’ve seen on the forums, “Prevost problems” don’t seem to be rooted in the engine/trans package. (I hope I haven’t jinxed myself so that on our next trip with the coach we experience some kind of catastrophic drivetrain failure!)
George Prientice and I have a good friend who has been selling used cars and pickups (as well as Pace and Bravo trailers) for fifty years and is still going strong at 73. He tells me that two things have really screwed up the late model used car market: First, the huge drop in new car production and sales during the recession and second “Cash for Clunkers”. They specialize in GM products.
He and his son are buying used cars/trucks at the Milwaukee Mannheim auction every week and at a Michigan auction 2x to 4x a month.
He contends the product they need on the lot continue to be in short supply even though new car production is back up now. Cash for Clunker took a considerable number of good, lower priced used cars out of the market forcing consumers who would be buying those cars to “buy up” into an already tight market contributing to the short supply.
As a number of the posters have written before me, the same thing is happened in the Prevost motorcoach market and its effects will be felt into the future. We were looking for a late 90’s Prevost. Finally found one. Happy with it. Since we bought ours, I’ve noticed that late 90’s Prevosts for sale have been very few and far between. So I asked myself: “why?”
Most of those I see for sale seem to be sellers selling and not replacing their coach. Logically if someone has a late 90’s coach, has had it for a while, and wants to move to a newer coach for whatever reason they might be looking for a coach built during the downturn … but there aren’t many available, so they sit tight.
An interesting economics of supply and demand playing out in real time.
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Relay 76. Thanks.
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BA must be asleep, he’s the KC guy.
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This is a great idea. We’d often thought about how amazing it would be to have a trade system among rv resorts like timeshare does. I guess the only hiccup might be any restrictions the associations would have about renting.
We will be sure to use this. Thanks!
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Larry and Teddy
hope you enjoy #726. The first owner is a friend of ours. Beautiful bus!!