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In all the excitement about washing I forgot to mention the name of the de-ionizer . Its called the spotless water system and as I stated before I wash the cars or coach and rinse with the deionizer and walk away. No wiping and no spots. Finally something that actually works as advertised.
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I cannot in any size, shape or form probably even come close to the man hours total rebuilding of this bus.
As the ad states it lives in Portage, Wisc. someone had a lot of time on there hands. But a complement to the
builder and his many talents.
It’s gets very cold in Portage, Wisc. this project kept someone very busy.
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I replaced 3 panels last year, panels at prevost 2200 each, had them painted at Millenium, 22000 so for 3 panels about 3,000 dollars not cheap! I walked thru the facility when the painting was getting done did not see one H that did not have a least 2 cracked panels, theu usually start at the corner where the chrome trim is. This is a problem with all H,s they will crack sooner or later, Gary
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Should be a recall like the delam issue !!
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The solenoid actuated valves are exclusive to Liberty in your vintage all the way up to today’s production. It is how Liberty has designed their automatic leveling feature.
Generally speaking Norgren valves have a neat feature most are unaware of. I am speaking solely of the pneumatically operated valves. If you apply pilot pressure to port 12 you push the internal spool to open the path to ports 1 and 2. Remove the pressure and the path to 1 and 2 is closed. For me that is an easy way to understand what is happening within the system when I follow air pressure.
The 12 and 24 volt issue is likely because your coach is a 12 volt coach. Liberty installed components will be powered by 12 volt, while Prevost installed components will be powered by the chassis 24 volt system. We see that situation on later model Classic coaches which are 12 volts, and we see all 24 volt solenoids on the Elegant Lady coaches because on those the Liberty conversion is 24 volts.
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This sounds crude, but when the tanks are separated there is less water in relation to solids in the black tank. I think there is a significant benefit to have a higher volume of water relative to solids to slosh everything around so when dumping the tank it carries the solids out of the tank.
I will use the gray water by-pass for example when I am not going to have access to a sewer connection but under all but those instances I want all the waste water we generate to go into the tank so there is a vigorous flow to carry the poop downstream.
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Congratulations!
Were you competing against Tom on this coach? Many of us were pretty sure this is one of the coaches that Tom is eyeing up for his next coach.
This coach deserves its own thread!
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Apple products have been a real challenge to our web guru, not made any simpler by the fact that there are now so many different devices and browsers. Compatibility is likely to remain a serious issue we ask him to fight.
I don’t understand how he is going to deal with the myriad issues we have (he did explain but then again I still don’t know what a browser is) but he knows the committment we have to make access to the site easy for everyone. Do not give up letting us know if you have problems with any device. If we don’t know it cannot be fixed.
But even though I have no clue what it means I do know he will talk about things like clearing the cache (?), using certain browsers because some are not compatible (I use Chrome), and our most commin issue is make sure you are using the correct user name and password. I believe the issue with user name and the case of the letters is now solved or being solved so that should diminish as a problem, but you still need a password that is 100% correct, including the case of the letters.
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Peter is anal. And rightfully so.
I don’t think any motor home owners rely on their coach as much as Peter and he has a schedule carved in stone. When he has a problem with his coach he is screwed. So he goes above and beyond anyone that I know of to insure reliability.
And when he answers a post on the forums you can be pretty sure the answer is correct.
If you ever want tips on how to inspect a coach contact Peter. He leaves nothing to chance and sellers now fear him.
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Tim mine has had the rivet process and strips done buy Prevost
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Great post Jon,
Are there specific year(s) which Prevost had slide problems before correcting the issues? Only the early years of the XLII, i.e. 2001, or did Prevost come out with a solution to fix the early slide issues which a buyer should look for come PDI time?
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Tim & Cindy asked: “Quick question, do you full-time or just travel occasionally? Just wondering since it doesn’t look like your bus has any slides. And, are you happy you went with an XLV vs. XLII?”
Right now we travel occasionally. We spent 27 days on the road in January. Until next winter most of our trips will be one or four nights at the race track. Some trips will be longer. Once we’re fully retired we plan on spending extended periods of time in the coach. Like six to eight week trip to Alaska, two to three months down south in the winter.
No slides. That was driven by a number of factors. First was price range which put us in the mid to late 90’s. Second was desire for OTR (bus air) which I understand is difficult to have with slides. We really leaned towards a Liberty. Third, I was apprehensive about slides in the first place because of the added complication, potential for something else to go wrong, added weight, and potential additional expense associated with slides.
We were orginally looking for a 40′ XL because I figured we could get buy without the extra five feet, it was easier to manuever, and easier to back up with the trailer. But once we saw the additional room in the 45′ XLV and what it did and understood how the IFS added additional manueverabilty, we quickly started to focus on the XLV. As I understand it, a 40′ XL with IFS, Series 60 is in a very narrow range of years. We also found it hard to find one that met those criteria that also had a private commode which the lack of is a deal killer for us.
Not that there is anything wrong with a 40′ coach. A longtime friend who introduced me to Prevosts had three or four (maybe five) 40′ Liberty Prevosts (he traded every year or two for a new coach) all without slides. He and his wife lived in the coach for three or four months every winter for ten or more years. They had a big house in Wisconsin and made the 40′ coach without slides work.
Why XL vs H? I like the classic look of the XL and the fact that driver and co-pilot are on the same level as the rest of the coach. We’re not tall people, so the added height that I think is in the H wasn’t of value to us. We might be missing extra height I think is in the bays.
So that’s how we got to where we got. Never considered an XLII as that was beyond the price range we were looking in.
The more coaches you look at (like at Bella Terra or whatever its called), the more coach owners you talk to, the smarter for the two of you you’ll get! One thing nice about the exchange on this thread and other a few other threads is the willingness of some of the other Forum members to openly share the mistakes they have made.
Good luck in our search.
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JCT,
The PC crowd loves to show off their coaches, talk coaches and help new owners spend their money. There is a wealth of expertise in this group and they will share it with you just as they have me and every new owner who is interested. Come to Bella Terra, learn a lot and have a great time with some great folks.