Clint
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Received a few connection request, which after accepting doesn’t appear to enable any new DM type comms. Maybe it’s hidden in a menu somewhere.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN-
found it. Clicking the profile of someone you’re ‘connected’ to will provide several clickable options. Under ‘timeline’ you now how the ability to message that person directly.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN
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I believe a PPV just before the chassis aux tank will open allowing a back fill and the chk valves in front of the primary,secondary, and wet tanks are directional towards the tanks.
That’s also what would happen if you were airing up via your aux compressor … right? And if the key is on the norgrens would open allowing complete air up of the suspension.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
good question, maybe through the ‘connect’ function?
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
For clarity sake, are all prior images gone?
*update* I just did a search and found some pre-migration images.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
I’m with ya.
What makes this even more discouraging is that this is basic stuff. If a ‘development team‘ with past forum experience is involved, that team would have surely understood the importance of time and date stamp. If they didn’t, I would question their experience. If they did, but a design decision was made by the admins to not include time and date stamp, it would be nice if the rational supporting that decision was shared with the users. Otherwise, users will continue to be frustrated – not good.
The Prevost DIY community desperately needs a viable forum for long form troubleshooting and modification threads, and data/knowledge archival. Facebook is terrible for that.
Wanderlodge Owners Group is the benchmark for what an active and healthy RV/Bus enthusiasts forum can be. They do it with no ads, no fees, and it runs vBulletin. The forum owner is immensely invested in the community and hyper active on the forum – reads every thread and has 50K+ post . The admins and moderators are ever present making sure the guard rails are observed. It is not uncommon to average 50+ p/day for months at a time on WOG.
It feels like PC has morphed into a sales advertising platform first, with a little bit of forum thrown in. IMO, it doesn’t feel like an optimized forum user experience was the primary goal.
I will continue to pop in every couple of weeks or monthly, but for now FB (good or bad) is where the Prevost activity is. And as I’ve said before, I loath FB.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
Admins, is there an update on this? Not knowing the time and date of the post you’re replying to is frustrating.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
A lot of the Wanderlodge guys get rid of the DN50 and use a small Bosch. Easy to maintain, easy to source, cheap to buy, easy to carry a spare, no leaks – EVER. I’ve done this on two Wanderlodges and two Prevost (Royale and CC). Note Wanderlodges, Royales, and Country Coaches have 12v house systems.
If you’ve been on FB POG lately you likely saw the near disaster the fella with a XL2 had caused by multiple service errors with his DN50 at a Prevost facility.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
Not seeing it.
Was that a design decision? Was the consensus it’s not needed?
I found it helpful. Seems to be on most heavily utilized forums I participate in.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
reply post – looking for time and date stamp.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
Just to confirm what you’re saying, air pressure in the brake system (primary/secondary) comes up normally but the suspension never airs up (i.e. comes up to travel height)? Is that correct?
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
Glad you got the suspension air’d up.
I misspoke earlier, airing up FROM THE AUX side of the system (suspension) will not air up the primary side of the system (i.e. the brake reservoirs) due to the PPV valve just upstream of the chassis aux tank. Under normal operation the bus is air’d up from the primary side and when the PPV see’s ~75psi on the supply port it opens the delivery port to the aux system which air’s up the suspension. That in-rush of air to the chassis aux tank is the big whoosh of air you hear when airing up.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
30 lbs for brakes or suspension/aux or both?
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
From @jessica “First option would be expanding those profiles to include more info like bios, RV descriptions, or other details. This is already built into the software, so it’s pretty straightforward to set up.
The other route would be creating custom signature boxes that work more like the old forum. This would require some custom development work on our end.
My personal opinion is the first option would be more than sufficient if the user is accessing the forum on a computer.“
Why does this require custom development? Most forum software has been able to do this for years? What software did you guys use? Word Press? Based on the attached screenshot it is.
My personal opinion is neither signature option is acceptable. If one has spent a lot of time on active enthusiast forums over the past couple of decades having a proper signature block is expected because it adds value. Removing the signature block removes value. Removing time and date stamp removes value. Asking users to accept decreased functionality in the spirit of moving forward is the wrong approach to growing a successful community.
Also, I’m fine with learning something new, I spent my entire professional career in technology – so I get it. But learning something new is usually the by-product of innovation. The software platform chosen by Prevost Community doesn’t feel like it offers basic feature parity with what focused forum platforms have been delivering for decades. On the plus side, the improved mobile device capability is a win, albeit it still suffers from the same lack of basic forum functionality.
I’m sure lots of time and money was invested with good intentions, but it feels like a missed opportunity. Prevost owners that are DIY minded dearly need a viable and active forum – which FB is not.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN -
“Jessica : Hi Clay – regarding the signature – no, your profile takes the place of what used to be your signature. You can build out your profile with as much or as little information that you want to share with members of this group.“
^^^^ note the manual full quote should not be required, but unfortunately is. Otherwise someone perusing this would just see “Hi Clay – regarding signature – no, your profil…”, which doesn’t provide enough context.
Regarding no signature: was this a design decision or software limitation? If design decision I’d argue the signature was really helpful. Example, if someone post a thread with ‘Alternator Issues’, and I’m reading it – the first thing I would do is look in the signature to see if it’s a XL like mine or a 2019 XL3 that has like 5 alternators … if the later I’m not going any further. As is, to figure this out we have to highlight the user name, then click the profile. Likewise, when someone responds, we have to do the same thing.
Feels like decreased functionality.
Also, basic forum functionality offer more formatting capabilities. At a minimum, the ability to highlight in a different color for emphasis other than just bold.
My understanding from prior messaging that the group you guys contracted with to provide the new updated forum was very experienced with forum environments. Gotta be honest, first impressions would not suggest that. Feels like more thought was put into the reworking the classified section than to the actual forum.
I’m not sure what the target was for the new look and feel, but I hope it wasn’t FB.
I loath having to use FB.
Clint & Tammy Summers
2000 XL 45 Country Coach (rivets)
1977 FC31 Bluebird Wanderlodge (more rivets)
Vonore TN
