[Karl]

I forgot all about this blue house. Bill’s pic above reminded me, saved in a file.

I took this picture when this hose was removed from a 2005 XL-II for defective CAC replacement.

The mileage was on or about 55,000.

Yes, Prevost blue hoses work just fine on the hot side…for a while.

[Karl]

Hi guys, I apologize for being gone so long, but it has been a coupld hectic days. I have just emailed a link to this thread to Guy French and Gaetan Bolduc and remarked as it came to my mind that this has the makings of a class action suit. Hopefully they take the time to read and respond, and perhaps fix some problems before it advances that far or someone gets hurt because of a breakdown that could have and should have been foreseen.

[Karl]

Ben,

Jeff forgot to jump back on here and tell us he needs glasses. His batteries have the date code stickers, I’ve ordered him readers from the drug store.

Also, the branded date codes you mentioned were discontinued in 2008 in favor of the round white sticker with two letters. I’ve not seen any batteries without the date codes.

[Karl]

The SIlverleaf replacement is now down to $6,000, so bit better. Country Coach under one of the original owners have a small repair operation in Junction City; I saw a Prevost conversion in the shop when we were up there this summer. Our original CC “OTR” compressor lasted 19 years, the second only two years, but I believe it was due to inadequate evacuation of the system. Have had no trouble with the AC compressor last three years. Our AC condenser is mounted on the side, so can’t speak the the condenser issue on Prevost conversions.

[Karl]

I will post pics when all is done

[Karl]

my coach number is 0175.

[Karl]

Nice job Peter, interested in seeing the results of the piece of crap Zip Dee awning being removed.

[Karl]

Karl,I have an XLII #7-9012.

[Karl]

Bob’s assesment on the finances my be correct in some cases. I don’t beleive that has been the case with our lot at Hilton Head Motorcoach resort. We stayed there once and fell in love with the location as well as the people so we bought a lot about 6 months later. We like the fact that we are guarrented a spot anytime we want which is a big deal with my schedule and last minute trips. Our lot is in the rental pool when we arent there and returns enough income most years to cover the maintance and fees. But the biggest reason is the people there.Great place.

[Karl]

Kar, was the 2004 bulleting supposed to replace the blue hoses? Thanks

[Karl]

Jim,

Thanks for the information! We like the Marathons we have looked at so far, but are not opposed to considering another converter. A bit disappointing the deal fell through. While we can trade, all we will get is wholesale, and I had hoped to get a bit more. If nothing happens by spring, we will lower the price until it sells, or we trade it in. We really liked the pictures of 671, and would have liked to check it out better in person. We liked the idea of buying in Nashville, so we can get a coach checked out by Prevost. If the coach checks out, we would take it to Jeff’s place to have him go through it. But at the latest, we’ll get our Prevost next year–one way or another!

[Karl]

Per, our 40 footer is Marathon 593, a 2000 model on 1999 shell

There are some differences between an XL and XLII

Xl has single pane windows, XLII has dual pane, helps with noise reduction and heating and cooling. No ice build up inside when your in below zero temps

XL has disc brakes steer and tag, drum on drive, XLII has disc brakes all way around

xL doesn’t have speed sensitive steering, XLII does

XL has fixed rear fenders over rear tires, XLII rear fenders are hinged, so they swing up allowing for easy maintenance and or tire chain installation

XL has lever operated tilt telescoping steering wheel, XLII has air push button operation

XL openable windows are manual, whereas XLII windows are air or electrically powered

XL has manual operated drivers toll window(they slide). XLII are a smaller windows powered electrically

599 probably has the generator exhaust sent thru to roof, where Marathon XLII’s have exhaust plumbed out the back. This is one item I definitely have wanted for 15 years, our current #0593 has it

All 3 of our Marathons have had cruise airs, and we are very happy with them. But we don’t spend days or weeks in 120 degree temps

lLater XL’ after T-5873, somewhere during 1997, have IFS. All XLII ‘s have IFS

replacement glass in XL is cheaper in XLII

Just a few thoughts

[Karl]

Unlimited is unlimited. This sounds like the same path the cell companies took when years ago we all had unlimited data, soon to be replaced by pay as you go plans based on gig usage. Most of those old plans have been eliminated, forced out by the cell companies. Usage grew based on the services available as Karl pointed out and a big leap towards technology. Those that still have an unlimited plan are hanging on for dear life, while the cell companies work hard to eliminate those plans because they don’t make any money. Liberty may be in the same boat.

[Karl]

Thank you, Paul. I appreciate that my memory isn’t (that far) gone yet. Actually, I looked back this morning at an email I sent to Jon a year ago where I explained the advantages to the unlimited plan, which reinforces that my memory hasn’t faded. Still, I am hoping that Mark chimes in with his understanding having bought his bus new.

I also can’t disagree with getting it in writing if it sounds good. Here I was lulled by Liberty’s stellar reputation. Every _single_ time I have ever dropped off my coach with them they have never asked a question about my list, the items on it were complete and perfect, and the cost was reasonable. Who’d have thought?

Diane is right. I can add a device onto my personal plan for $10/month, which I am now looking into doing. Unfortunately, this is going to come with an added hardware cost.

[Karl]

Jon, you misunderstand the meaning of “streaming”. It sounds like you define it as the Napster of old, when people pirated music and streaming was a way of securing content without playing it.

What it means now is that the information is in the cloud instead of on physical media. You still pay for access to the content, i.e. Netflix, Hulu, Apple Music, etc. which have monthly fees by which they pay the copyright holders. The advantages to this system is lower production and distribution costs for the sellers and lower costs to the buyers, along with immediate access to content and no concerns of loss or damage to media. Since the industry moved toward this model services like Napster have faded away and piracy is way down. By the way, I pay for all three of the services above every month.

Cellular data plans are a huge cash cow. You can demonstrate that by vomparing to what you pay for your internet service at home. When Google Fiber has come to town, like KC (lucky Al!) selling 1GB down speeds for $10 a month they have really disrupted the pricing structure. I liken these costs today with how we did long distance in my childhood. Now I pay nothing for it, and not because I am stealing.