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  • Posted by Peter on October 30, 2015 at 11:04 am

    We all know they can delam on the stainless panels , but they can delam on upper panels too, mostly where panel and window meet top to bottom , no water damage what so ever on this coach but was caught early enough

    Archived replied 7 years, 8 months ago 23 Members · 44 Replies
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  • Dan

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 11:23 am

    Hope it’s not Pete but looks like another problem coming down the pike for folks with the newer coaches. Wonder when Prevost will start riveting coaches again from the get go as they build.

  • Peter

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    Peter where was this working being done?

  • glen

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Prevost

  • Kenneth

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Yikes! I’m assuming this is not an issue with the XL shell.

  • Archived

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    In all the posts and various conversations I am not aware of any widespread issues with delamination of the upper skin. I’m not saying there are no problems but if there were more than isolated examples we would have heard of it previously.

    I suspect the bonding method on the composite upper skin is similar if not identical to that used on H3 shells and they have been building them for more than 20 years. Since the XLII all seated coaches and conversions have used a composite upper skin, and entertainer coaches and I think seated coaches have used the same material between the bottom of the windows and top of the bays.

    It is doubtful we have a problem.

  • Archived

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Just something to be aware of I bet nobody checks the upper panels when looking at a XL ll coach

  • Dorel

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Here’s a H coach that had delam and leaked water

  • Steve

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Question: this side strip is coming apart from the body…is this the delamination process starting or just aged adhesive needed to be replaced?


  • Peter

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    Wonder if this has just started and will they be glued and riveted like the fixes going on now. Trying to talk the Wifey into upgrading and inquiring minds want to know.

  • Steve

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Glen they take panel off clean it and reglue it

  • Archived

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    Dorel,

    I don’t know how that trim piece is held in place, maybe Jeff will jump in here.

    Peter – That’s a nightmare! Your bus was already through the rivet process, you woud think that the uppers would have been checked at the same time.

  • Brett

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Tom, looks like is just adhesive tape, but on top of the strip someone added , I believe Sika ….I did some side correspondence with Jeff, he suggested clean/Sika glue In place….I just do not want any further problems/leaks. I have no water leaks so far, just this small aesthetic issue…that I would like to get fixed…

  • Jim/Chris

    Member
    October 30, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    We all know I am a premaintenace guy and saw a small separation most people would have ignored… I am glad I am doing it and was able to confirm no water or rust damage… I am also taking advantage of changing the big awning to a small window awning as I have had nothing but trouble…

  • Tim

    Member
    October 31, 2015 at 4:59 am

    Dorel, that looks like it is trim piece only..

  • Archived

    Member
    October 31, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Much to my suprise a trim piece fell off while stationary, lucky not on the road. Brackets are bolted, trim is glued to them. Am going to try window glass adhesive. Good or bad? Lower stainless on engine curb side door. All the like trim pieces arround the bus are the same arrangement but still tight.

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