Corey
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Thank you …very much… if I get it started I will have the code read for the check engine light… I hope this will find the problem….
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Andy,
Would like to see a pic of your new coach!
Did you keep the Flxible?
Safe travels,
Mark
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… Great question… Sorry… I mean a place “where we can enjoy the stay for a few days”.
Hope that helps, clarify. We want a “nice” place.
Thanks!
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HJ,
Our first coach was a new 2008 Monaco Dynasty. We drove it 7.5 yrs. and put almost 70,000 miles on it. Our second coach is the one in my signature.
I know that 99% of us will never have an accident but that thought is always in the back of my head. I do read a lot on a couple of motorhome sites and there are always pictures of wrecked RV’s.
I was having service on our coach at the Prevost Center in Goodlettsville, TN, a year or so ago and saw a Prevost coach that was in a severe accident. My understanding is that it was an almost head-on drunk driver crash.
The front of a Prevost has steel members that are built into the front end. We also have REAL front and rear bumpers. Just look under the front area of a regular RV and you will see just brackets/braces holding the fiberglass to the RV frame. There is virtually no protection.
Here is a pic of the wrecked Prevost. Notice that the driver and passenger area are not crushed. The car that was hit spun around and pushed in a couple of bay doors. I can only imagine what the car looked like. The coach held up protecting the occupants.
The front bumper was removed for transport.
Safe travels,
Mark
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I know this is anecdotal and Jon will poo-poo me….but once I started using Rick Mays Snake Oil(RV1)….no soot from Gen or Wabasto. Geo.
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When cold, a bit of smoke at startup is normal. It should clear up in a couple of minutes.
If black smoke continues under load when warm, it is not getting enough air for the amount of fuel injected. I’d check the air filter for cleanliness and the turbo for proper operation.
If turbo and filter are fine, check for obstuctions in air supply to generator compartment. Our coach has a supply air fan to the compartment. That fan needs to run for both cooling and proper air supply.
If you checked all that and it still smokes (black), have the injectors tested for spray pattern and/or dribbling.
Gerald
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He will be greatly missed! Such a sad time. Prayers for the family and friends. He was a sweet man.
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Signed up for Bella Terra rally this morning.
This thread has cause to bring in the PC meter again :
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Tom When I spoke to John at Olympia we talked about the PC forum He said he does visit the site once in a while..
Thanks
Craig
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Wow just shocked I was just emailing him last week never met Peter but I was probably going to run into him up here in Canada this summer my condolences to his family.Jeff
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Outstanding color scheme for a coach of that era. I think the paint on the rubber around the wheels is an upgrade.
I’ll be frank. The open commode is a deal killer for me and us. If that was the only minus on a coach we were looking at, I would factor in a remodel to create a private commode room.
If the open commode works for you, then here are my pluses, minuses, and things to consider (especially with a coach of that vintage):
Pluses:
Paint scheme, paint on the rubber around the tires, coach still has the altimeter and outside thermomenter (do they both still work?), looks like its had a wood floor upgrade in the salon (carpet is gone) and possibly the tile has been replaced (is the tile heated? does it work?), apparently still has the tool box, its a Liberty.
Minuses:
Black front seats and black dash, open commode,
Things to worry about/check on/confirm:
Does it really have OTR/bus air? Almost ALL Libertys have it … but there are two or three, maybe four without it.
Do all the outside lights work (some that don’t might be corroded so much that the fixtures needed to be replaced)? If you’re towing a car or trailer does it have a trailer brake already installed (current technology?)? Is the refrigerator the original Amana from Liberty? If it is, I would have Olympia replace it … it exceeded its operational expected life a few years ago. How “cold” does the OTR A/C run on a warm to hot day? Take a digital meat thermometer with you.
Have the TVs been replaced with flat screens? Does the dash radio pull in distant FM and AM clearly? Is it easy to find stations? Pre-set staions? Find stations easily on XM radio? Play with the navigation system. Do you like it? Our coach had an upgrade to the nav system in about 2007 or 2008, and I just LOATHE the POS. To replace it is not a cheap date.
How many Cruise-Airs does it have? Three? Is that going to be enough where you intend to use the coach. If you’re going to use it 12 months of the year in the south, make sure you have enough cooling capacity.
The generator doesn’t look like its in a box … or maybe the box doesn’t have a door. Fire up the generator, put a good load on it, lie on the bed and see if you can live with whatever noise your getting.
Fire up all the Cruise-Airs. Run them hard both in heat and cooling modes. Check the temps in both heat and cooling modes. Make sure the heat pumps are working as they should.
When you open the bays, do the bay doors stay open for five minutes? Or do they slowly drop. If any drop (especially on a cool day) the tension cylinder things need to be replace.
Then of course there is maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. Don’t be afraid to reach out to someone knowledgeable about Libertys to discuss the maintenance records that are available to you.
Tires and batteries will run you very close to $10,000.
A basic zero out at Jeff’s on our coach cost $20,000 … and I’ve spent money on it since.
Drive it on the Interstate at speed for 20 or 30 minutes. Does it drive straight and true? Or do you have to chase the coach with the steering wheel? If you have to chase it, the coach probably needs a three axle alignment at Prevost (JAX did ours). The price of the alignment was $675 or something like that … but new tie rods and shocks resulted in a $2,000 bill. After the three axle alignment it drove like a different coach (Thank you Peter Campbell! RIP).
I haven’t been in the market for almost three years. That said, in my opinion, given the age, mileage, 45′ Liberty Classic Lady (with a handful of upgrades), open commode, and the price … I would expect you’re getting very comprehensive and complete maintenance records showing that all the fluids, belts, hoses, tires, and batteries are one year old or less and all the bags are newer, there aren’t any air leaks, TVs all upgraded to flat screen, etc.
I don’t want to scare you, this is a very nice looking coach. I know nothing about Olympia or have an opinion either way. I want to provide you with as much information as possible based on my experience of buying a two year newer Liberty three years ago.
Good luck! Keep us posted. (I might post more.)
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Another reason for Jeffs “overpriced” oil change. Geo.
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My log book consists of a number of elements.
The basis for planned maintenance is shown in this article: https://prevostcommunity.com//articleDetail.asp?ID=7
Every time I do a maintenance I fill this out, and it shows what I did and when something is due. I review this proir to starting maintenance to make sure I have all that I need to complete what is sheduled.
The second part of my log book is a page that allows a summary or narrative. Obviously I list the date and miles or hours, but I also describe in general terms what routine maintenance has been done and the pages listed above are stored in the log book following the narrative. There are always going to be things outside of routine or scheduled maintenance so in this page I also write what I did regarding a repair or modification, often including part numbers, sources, and I attach any receipts or instruction manuals or notes or diagrams so in the future the sources are known as well as what specifically was changed if there were mods.
The third part consists of sketches, diagrams, parts lists or anything else that clearly shows non-standard repairs or modifications. This will be where I jog my memory about where I got a certain wire attached, or how I ran some wires or lines plus it will tell how to completely remove my modification or change and restore it to 100% original condition.
I hang on to my stuff a long time, and by having documentation I can always refresh my memory on what was done, how I did it and part numbers, plus where to get parts or repair kits.
One pet peeve is too many take their coach somewhere once a year for whatever they want to call that service. If the owners that did that spent an evening or two organizing all the required maintenance events required on the coach, the generator and the house they would quickly understand there is no such thing as a single maintenance event but a series of events that never seem to fall on the same day or month. The only way to attempt (I am not sure I catch it all) to do agood job of maintenance is to first write down every needed task, its interval in miles or hours or calendar time and try to set up a program where it all gets covered and written down. If it is not written down nobody is good enough to track when something is due with all the stuff that needs attention.
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You don’t need to fool around with FMCA, use the PC program to get your letter, then go shop anywhere you want. You have to call the tire companies and ask if they will accept the Advantage Program, then you’re good to go.