Bob
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I by passed the one on the 89 for the same reason: Another board member flew Tomcats. Small world. Hope the world finds you in great shape. Back to question presented no problems for the years I owned coach. Just was another place to leak. Spliced line and bypassed controll valve. 1/8 line if memory serves me rite. been 8plus years. Bob
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Thanks Ben, as usual, you always help clear things up…
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Okay, so we’ve figured out how to get it apart, now the hard part comes (for us at least). Anyone know of a good interior decorator? We’ve got some theme ideas but we’re spending way too much time trying to pick out individual fabrics etc. More than, “what looks good on the sofa” there are questions about what goes good with what.
What did we get ourselves into??
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Thats a nice looking setup Tom, good idea. Where did you have room? is that the back center of the bumper storage?
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I watched the HVAC webinar. Very well done. They seem to be targeted at service technicians and contain a lot of good information including how to change the seal on a Carrier 05G compressor and generally troubleshoot the OTR system.
My humidity indicator is pink so I know the system needs to be evacuated, the filter/dessicant replaced and recharged. Still looking for some local vehicle refrigeration outfit (PDX) that knows more about the OTR system than I do at this point. The local Carrier service affiliate did not make me feel warm and fuzzy.
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Slides to me are what makes our coach as livable, yet the price we pay for slides (not monetarily) is huge. When the slides are in, the living room and kitchen are OK. Not much different than a non slide coach if you ignore the fact is is a little ugly with the slide in. You are correct about the bedroom being a huge problem as far as accessing the closet or some drawers. A single slide coach does not have that problem.
The cost of slides is twofold. The structure robs space, both upstairs where space for the mechanism on the sides is lost, and in the bays where the chassis reinforcements rob space or access to the bays, The second cost is added complexity. More valves, more moving parts, expensive slide seals that will need replacement. In exchange you get a coach interior that is very comfortable to live in. Those few feet of space make a huge difference in livability.
The slide rooms can create problems if something is wrong, but the Prevost slide generation I have (the only one I know in detail) is very easy to manually control, any problem is a mere inconvenience. I can easily bring the slide in or out, over ride safety features that might fail, and generally do what is required to get underway, even in the event of a problem.
Bottom line, there is a reason why the market has gone to slides despite the added weight, complexity, cost and lost space. All the drawbacks are offset by the added floor space.
I know you were breaking my chops. CC guys look for any chance at all to give us Liberty guys shots.
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Well logically then, open the black box that the wires go into, the solenoids should be there. My xl has a grey box. there is an old post showing a piicture of the box.
Look for a circuit breaker hidden on the exterior of the box, could be a hard press to reset.
Another “thing” could be your brushes are stuck away from the armateur, meaning not making contact. This can be caused by dampness and carbon dust.
I only know the situation on an 97 xl, yours should be somewhat similar.
Eventhough this appears to be an electrical problem for you, I think the moderator should move it to heating and airconditioning. just sayin.
JIM
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It sounds like a solenoid (relay) is stuck. The locations of the AC system control relays has varied on all my three coaches so I suggest you look for a box in the condenser compartment or on the ceiling of one of the bays. It is likely to be a “can” type relay such as you might find on the firewall of an older car for the starter.
They are available at NAPA
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My 2 cents worth. Last month it was time to change the coolant. We have a nephew that is in charge of the school buses for a large Colorado school district. Am not sure how may buses but seeing them in the yard there is a lot of yellow I asked him what coolant to use. He reply was green, not extended life. They found a lot fewer problems with all the pumps for heaters and other items. He said they will not be going back to extended life coolant. The total operation cost for a fleet of buses ended up a lot less with the green coolant. He did say to mix it with distilled water.
I used DD powercool with SCA in the coolant , not the extended type. If you turn off the valves to the front heater and aqua hot if you have one at the engine it is a easy chore.
I carefully drain the coolant and measure how much came out of the system so I know about how much put back in the system. Stewart Stephson has DD power cool for less tha $120 a gallon. Oh DD powercool is not green but it is not extended life. -
The typical 40,000 BTU Webasto will burn up to 0.34 gal/hour (standard burner nozzle) when running full blast.
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Finally tracked it down to the analog Honeywell thermostat in the stateroom. A loose connector in one of the wires. The Cadet and the Webasto blower in the stateroom are working fine now. Glad I did not have to tackle the Techlink part of the system.
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Try Royale Phoenix in Elkhart, In. These guys worked for Royale before Monaco and have all info and engineering of these coaches. 574-206-1216. Paul.
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Oh wow, thanks a lot.
Six more inside the bus?
Who is going to clean up all this coffee I just spewed all over my laptop.
That is rich …. Thanks.
BCO
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Mine has a dip stick for checking the level. My chassis is a 2006 model year, and a 60 series, just so you know. I also have a vent line that goes up also from on top of the unit. If you can’t find oil when putting a wire in, I would be concerned. There has to be some way to check it and change it. On mine Prevost TN simply put a small hose in the dip stick hole and used a pump to suck it dry and then replaced with new oil.
When you put the wire in, is it going all the way to the bottom, or do you hit obstructions preventing you reaching the bottom? Also, do you notice any leaking around the pulley shafts at all? It sounds like you have a dry box. If so, I would be very concerned that the drive may already be damaged.
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This is DDC response
Greg,
Detroit Diesel has not produced or supported 2 stroke engines for a number of years.
Your question could best be answered b by an MTU sales and service provider. See the link bellow to find a location in your area.
Thank you, DDC CSC Steve Marr