Bill
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Thanks for the info Don. Much appreciated. I printed off the Power Tech manual already but thanks for the offer.
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Thanks Roy and Bobbie. Does anyone have Power Tech trouble shooting phone number and the best person to talk to there? I will call them on Monday and see if we can figure this out. Leaving today with the coach and I feel like I am half neutered. This is my first time posting to Prevost Forum. Lots of good information available to someone new like me..
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The only thing to understand here is that you are dealing with 2 different elements in the purchase of a coach.
The first of which is a human element. What a seller will or will not accept is solely his or her choice. In making any purchase of this type I have always tried to find out the motivation for selling. This may give you an indication of how much room you may have to negotiate. Is the seller buying a property and needs the proceeds of the sale for a down payment? Or is the seller only considering selling if they can get enough to move up with the addition of the additional cash they have on hand? Knowing the motivation of the seller should aid in a successful negotiation.
The second element here is of a mechanical nature. The most educated among us or the most advanced diagnostic tools will never completely eliminate all unforeseen failures. Is it possible that you purchase a coach from an honest seller after having it thoroughly inspected from a reputable facility only to have a transmission issue within 500 miles? It is possible and it does happen. All of us here are purchasing a very high quality product in an effort to avoid as much risk as possible, however a Prevost is still mechanical. We will still have unpredictable and random failures.
I have been in the car business whether collector cars or regular passenger cars all of my life. For nearly 10 years I worked for myself in the wholesale end of the car business. Some months I personally would buy and sell as many as 150 cars. Trust me, I learned very quickly that no one can possibly predict the mechanical limitations in all situations. Education and due diligence can help tremendously, but it will never be a guarantee.
I personally love the search. I look forward to the negotiation. Rather than having a specific set of rules, I recommend being educated, have a plan and then worry about the actual purchase price. You would not have gone this far without thinking that the coach is reasonably or at least close to reasonably priced anyway. Correct? Speaking of price, who truly knows what an exact price should be. I learned a long time ago that no matter how educated someone in a pre-owned sales market can be, the selling price will still always be an undetermined variable. Yes, we do have many highly educated members participating in this forum every day. A few of which make a living buying and selling pre-owned Prevost coaches. Do they know 100% of the time, that they are making the correct judgement on buying or passing on a specific coach? No. Maybe the coach should have been bought for $175,000 or possibly $200,000. Who truly knows with 100% certainty what the right number for the right well serviced coach is? My point is this. Let your emotions play into the final stage of the decision. If you pay 10% more for a coach that you plan to enjoy for the next 10 years, does it really matter in the long run? If you pay 50% more please revert back to step one! lol
Shopping for a coach should be fun. Enjoy it and try to make a few friends along the way:)
Bill III
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Has anyone used Hankook al22 tires ? My Michelin AXA2 tires are approaching 7 years old. I am getting the bus ready for our winter trip south , When checking tire pressures I noticed 1 tire side wall cracked up real bad in one spot . I purchased all new tires 12.19.14 . I called the store where i purchased them from and talked about the warranty . I was told i would have to purchase a new one and leave the old one . I then would have to wait until the factory rep look at the tire to determine if the would be any type of warranty . These tires only have about 40k on them … so i went looking for some new AXA2 tires and none are to be had . check for BFG.. GOODYEAR… no luck .. but i did find 2 HANKOOK tires so i will be having those installed on friday.. doing another small shake down trip .. i did find some IRONMAN tires which i never heard of … so i went with the Hankooks .. let me know what you folks think of those tires. The prices is 601 plus 53 FET plus 25 for the balance each
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I agree with Bill. We sniffed at a couple of really low mileage coaches before we bought our 1999 Liberty in 2014 with 72,000 miles; they just didn’t work for other reasons and I’m glad. Between talking to the seller and sleuthing by Jeff Rowe, we determined that the coach had NOT been driven much in the last three to five years. We were a little concerned, but it certainly wasn’t a deal killer. No use in 20 years … that would scare me. I’m put some money into through inspection and a 500 mile trip before agreeing to buy it.
As far as high mileage goes … for me it would depend on how I planned on using the coach. If we planned on a few local races and events (having The Milwaukee Mile, Road America, and Oshkosh within an hour and Indianapolis within five hours could keep the mileage down) and a round trip to Florida once a year to sit for four or five months … I don’t think I’d have a problem with 400 or 500 or even 600 thousand miles on a conversion.
But if I had plans for lengthy cross country, trans-Canada, Alaska trips a few times a year along with exploring the warm states in the winter and putting on 15 to 25 miles a year … I might opt for a coach with less than 200 or 150 thousand miles.
Its my understanding that the valves and injectors should be run every 125 to 150 thousand miles. Someone with a higher mileage coach or experience with 8V92s and Series 60’s in trucking might have some comments.
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BEST WISHES, Brian. Please let us know the outcome.
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Ordering Racor and Detroit filters shipping is Pricey Is there a good place to buy filters at a good price??
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Hi Liam, Do your two country coach manuals include the CC electrical schematics? I am troubleshooting some devices that don’t work on the ECC. I think I might have bad relays. Mine is #60187 I am not sure how to PM you.
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By the way, Ernie is in Weatherford, TX, just W. of Fort Worth.
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Ernie just finished a stellar job of replacing all our carpet with engineered wood flooring. His work is top drawer for sure.
Ernie Ekberg 8 one 7 47 five 3991
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FYI
Dana (AAP’s top tech) has moved to FL and at Tradewinds in Deland, FL now.
Chuck
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Thank you! Exactly the contact info I was hoping someone could provide.
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Yes, I have found some information there. Great info, Thank You.
2005 XL Thompson Coach
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prevostcar.com You will need your prevost shell Id # Example Mine is W-6553 lat letter in ser Number plus last 4 numbers. will have specific build sheet for your shell. Also any updates or recall on shell. Your mfg year Q=1992
did you look under couch /cabinets some have been found there.
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I have not seen any format changes.
2005 XL Thompson Coach
Rarely tow anything behind us.
Sold: 1993 Liberty that we loved for 12 years.