Lacey
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Ok, we have a Marathon and have not had any issue raising the front. Our genny is in bay 1 CS. Maybe ya’ll are carrying way too much shit if the front airbags won’t raise the front end!
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I saw the coach. Its horrible appearance is only what is seen on the surface.
It has an after market slide that does not, cannot or will not go in or out. It is an access point for animals, including the snake that left its skin when it molted. As items are opened up I suspect its condition will be much worse than imagined.
A pristine example of a coach of that vintage is going to sell for $125,000 just to grab a number out of the air. It can be assumed anything that is made of or uses rubber to function has to be replaced. Bushings, air bags, brake chambers, Norgrens, air cylinders, belt tensioners, belts, hoses, etc. You can count on it needing tires, batteries, shocks, and every drop of fluids. All filters will need to be replaced and it is probably the entire fuel system has to be “polished” and flushed. The air dryer, relay valves, protection valves and other air system components will need replacing.
I am pretty sure that just the chassis items to make it reliable, not counting what the engine or transmission will need is going to be in the range of $50,000 or more just to be conservative. If the labor was free it might be half that cost, maybe.
Then there is the interior. Some of the hard surfaces need cleaning. Some repairs or replacement. All of the soft surfaces, from the trim, to the ceiling to the furnishings have to be redone. The water that has entered through the slide that was half open may have done more damage than is immediately visible so the repairs may even extend to the floors and underlayment. Ditto for the bays.
An almost complete stripping of the interior might be required with only the walls in place if the cabinet structures are water damaged.
Then there are the house systems. Assume broken pipes in the plumbing and pushing new water lines. Assume the pump HW tank and any heating systems such as Webasto or Aquahot need replacing. With luck the various tenants from the animal kingdom did not eat the wiring. If they did miles of wires need to be pulled. Miles is the correct unit description because not only did the converter lay a lot of wiring in the coach, Prevost also has a lot of wiring, and the DDEC wiring is very sensitive to anything that can cause shorts, failed grounds or communication issues.
The coach has very little good that can be said about it. The worst part of it is the market value of the coach is never going to be as high as the cost just to turn it into an operational coach. If a would be owner thinks a free coach or a cheap coach is the way to go this is a good example of how to make a small pile of money disappear.
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Let me guess…it is a black red and silver one?
Been posted all over the country on CL,,,sounds like a typical scam.
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This company has parts for Microphor toilets. fast shipping and helpful.
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We will be there, hope to head that way in a few days. Jeff’s going to replace some windows, check for air leaks, recover seats, etc,etc. don’t know how long all this will take just need to be back in Texas by the 18th. Based on all the positive comments I’ve seen on the forum is the reason I’m going to Jeff. I’ve been to the other guys and Jeff fixed more and showed me more when we stopped by to talk to him about doing some work in the little time we were there than all the others together. Texas to Tenn. is a long way but I’m tired of dealing with folks that don’t know and don’t care.
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Channeling my inner nerd… :), humid air is less dense and offers less cooling. As Jon said, hot air is less dense and offers less cooling, and so, hot humid air is even more less dense and offers even less cooling than hot air. We have no choice but to back off the power on ascents lest we overwhelm our cooling systems.
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Article approved and on the site. Thanks Andre.
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There is more to maintenance than just changing oil. If the Prevost schedule is followed you will be beneath the coach twice as often just to lube the fittings.
When you do change the oil, you will also change the oil filters. As a practice I change the fuel filters at the same time. Then there is the issue of draining and checking the pneumatic system, maybe replacing the dessicant cartridge, possibly changing coolant, possibly transmission fluid and filters, etc.
To properly do the above you need to get beneath the coach so you need supports and a hard surface capable of carrying the weight on the supports. You need the oil pan to collect about 10 gallons of oil or up to 24 gallons of coolant. Then you need containers to put that collected waste oil in so the oil can be disposed of. You will have to carry a collection of tools, not only the routine tools, but the tools you will need for the not so routine tasks like those needed to remove a stubborn filter.
The coach can be lubed with a hand held grease gun and a grease cartridge, but since I did the maintenance described above in a barn on the floor you will be looking at a day long job because the ideal way to do it is with the bus on a lift or over a pit.
Bottom line I would take it to a truck stop or service facility and put on my coveralls and shadow the guy doing the work to make sure he does it right. The good news is on a vintage you appear to focus on there is not much someone can screw up, unlike earlier vintages that overgreasing would damage.
Doing a full service makes a mess. Oil gets splashed and drips, globs of grease hit the floor, etc. so I’m not comfortable doing work on a coach where I cannot protect someone’s concrete floor. Accidents happen. I think you would be far better off and will have to carry less stuff if you have others do the work.
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I’ve been measuring the draw from fan now for 30 min and the fan draws 3.9 – 4 A. Genny is up to operating temp. Now seems fine. I know better then to believe that that is true. After fiddling with the breaker wires wires the breaker did not trip. I’ll put in a new breaker just in case.
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yea, there`s my controversy. If todays oil has no “shelf life” and I don`t put 12K on it why would I dispose of perfectly usable oil ? just peace of mind ? each time I change I`ve done oil analysis & virtually no changes.
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Sid, yes, I saw on the Liberty Coach’s website that they are showing on the west coast at MCC. And, I would only want the H-3 as the new X3 will only be a two slide unit (extended chassis will not support 4 slides).
Mark