Dave
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Mike Gibson is a great guy and personal friend. I preached revival where he attends church several years ago right after I bought my bus. I was just realizing how “over my head” I was in this thing and Mike probably saw the fear and despair in my eyes.
He invited me to bring the bus to his shop and he helped me tremendously. He calmed a lot of my fears with good information and pointed out several things I needed to know. I am still learning but that day Mike spent wtih me is still valuable to me today. He has been an awesome resource of knowledge in the years since then.
I also gained a great friend. He is honest as the day is long and I would not hesitate to do business with him. I am glad to see him advertising on here.
Davy
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The wire connection issue is not a Delco issue but a Prevost issue because that is their field wire connection. And they don’t learn. I had the same issue on the gear driven 50DN that was hung on the back of the 8V92 in our first coach. No slack in those wires makes for a sure failure.
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MM and Tom hit upon two important points to consider.
First, in MM’s case he is starting from absolute zero so he knows 100% of the coach is new. With the exception of fluid changes, and until he needs to address tires and chassis batteries his only concern is to drive it and maintain it to the schedule. Within the 10 year time frame he mentions maybe he will replace some shocks or encounter a needed repair but he is correct in that he probably has at least 10 years before he starts to have to face air leaks, the leans, or maybe a slide seal. And that 10 year period of time is not an absolute. If he chases every little defect as soon as it is noticed, from a burned out light to a pesky loss of air on the aux system he may extend the “trouble free” period way beyond the 10 years that I set as a life limit on some components. We have seen posts from people who have 17 to 20 year old air bags for example.
But Tom mentioned a point everyone needs to understand. The costs being discussed for our coaches are not unlike the cost to own a high end conventional RV. I don’t know the various brands but those I have seen that are comparable in size to our coaches have all the same type engines, transmissions, air bag suspensions, and various parts that need service just like our coaches. My guess however is that since they are not designed for long life commercial service, or have the history of design evolution that comes from millions and millions of miles of customer feedback they may not be as inexpensive to maintain in the long run. I have not heard of too many 250,000 mile RVs, but that’s a low mileage Prevost.
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I think we all appreciate your sense of humor in what would be a stressful and difficult situation.
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David, good to know.
Thanks,
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Wow Jeff you must have been reading my mind ! Im getting tired of blowing out all the crap that comes up from the road and was just thinking about what to do about it. Hi HO HI HO its off to lowes I go ! Thanks for being a mind reader.
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Bill I know of a shop that will work on your coach, the time they tell you will take will be five times as long they will break everything they touch will put wrong belts on the wrong parts on and fluids everything they do will need to be redone the price will be double what it should be but u won’t be able to complain it is said up front !!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!
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Red,
Pay very close attention. When Gil and I agree you know it is the absolute truth.
My early Corvettes were loud, rode poorly, rattled, but were reliable, a little capable, and lasted forever. But the C6 Z06 I have now blew me away when I test drove it. It is my daily driver.
I have never had a car so capable, so enjoyable to drive, or so fast. 85 mph comes up on the speedometer pretty fast.
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MM,
We are not currently planning to replace the bus. However, we have considered purchasing a much smaller motorhome that would allow us to access campgrounds and parks that could not accommodate the Liberty.
Our Liberty Coach was perfect for us when we were full timing. Something smaller might be just the ticket for short getaway adventures.
Best wishes for many safe and enjoyable miles in your new Liberty. You made an excellent choice.
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Nice job on a well rounded user friendly site. All responsible should be proud.
Safe travels…
Tom & Beth
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Forget about any engines other than Detroit S60 or a Volvo D13..only in used will you find a S60. All new Prevost units come with Volvo..that is it. Forget many gear ratios too…there may be a couple of choices, but nothing like trucks. Also, you will get an Allison, or possibly an ishift in a new unit I would never want a Fuller or Meritor auto shift. Not ever going to be as smooth..no automated manual will ever be.
As to tires, I would only use Michelin. Why get something less? Nobody makes a better tire.
Truck dealers will change your oil and will work on S60 Detroits, and maybe you can find a Volvo dealer to work on the D13. Other stuff not so much. I wouldn’t want them even getting inside my bus, much less try to work on anything converter specific.
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Very nice Peter.
Sid, if I want to get in a Greyhound, I’ll buy a ticket.
Later
bv
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I am also anal about pressure a ran 110 cold I had no luck with the G614’s put about 40,000 miles a year on the trailer tires, the Geostars where the best of the 16 inch tires I could get 70,000 out of them I change tires every two years on trailer could have got 100,000 out of them they had lots of tread left , but I don’t take chances on tires. The G614 wear pretty even just did not have good luck with them tried 4sets , I thought it was me but after that many it was not put Michelin on not one problem no blow outs no flat tires they where the best ran them at 125 cold trailer 4 tires trailer axles weight 19,800 total they where rated for 6005 lbs single at 125psi could get 100,000 out of them.and the trailer was air ride.On the trailer I have now I run Geostars at 40,000 miles on them they have over half tread depth left I think I might get 80,000 out of them but does not matter they will be replaced end of this year
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OK, I’m logged in as you and will try to edit.
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I have never looked at an American Coach. They tend to not have OTR A/C and that is a must for us as we spend alot of time in the heat of the South. We also like Cruisairs and they use roof tops.
I am not saying they all are like this, but the available coaches we looked at, Royal, American, Country and Marathon all were lacking one or both A/C systems we wanted.
We decided to stick with Liberty since most of them have what we want. I just do not see any of them in 40′ with slides.