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Fire up the generator. If the problem persists it could be downstream from the transfer switch. If the problem goes away it could have been a shore power pedestal issue, the cord or the transfer switch relay.

Keep in mind I have no clue about the Vantare electrical system, but I start with the basics.

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Gary Here is the tread. Everything is still on hope you can make it. Summer is flying by so for those of you that haven’t made any plans for Sept. here is your chance to get on the road and head north. Rick

[Rodger]

Try to stay on truck routes and interstate highways. You will have less problems that way. If you have a setting in your GPS for trucks or bus, use that. It will usually avoid low clearance routes.

[Rodger]

Actually, as far as I know on my Vantare, everything runs through the inverters. That is one of the things that is very different about a Vantare conversion. I leaned that from a friend but the information was confirmed right here, by the way. However, that is not to say that I do not need additional protection.

DKO

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Hi Bill,

If you can’t get in anywhere by the big cities there’s a nice park we used for overnight stops in the hill country 45 miles east of Tucson called Butterfield RV Resort. It’s close to a lot of activites and it was very clean. It’s in Benson AZ. Around XMAS time expect cold nights and warm days.

The only thing I didn’t care for was the lonely night train horns cutting through the mountains, some folks like it.

You’ll find them on the web. Good luck.

Later

bv

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Normal line voltage is 120VAC. A good baseline on what acceptable voltage is could be as simple as looking at trigger point on protection devices. Progressive Industries uses 104 and 132. Keep in mind that as voltage drops current increases. This can cause fuses and circuit breakers to trip and some devices to run hotter.

Low volatage can almost always be attributed to current draw and wire gauge. The greater the draw, the larger the required wire gauge. Also, the longer the wire run the larger the wire guage required.

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Regardless of the converter there are going to be constants on the big money items. Do the AC units work? What age and condition are the tires and batteries? Are the inverters working? Are there maintenance records?

It doesn’t matter who the converter is when answering any of those questions and none require converter specific knowledge. Prove to a buyer those items are working, that the tires and batteries are relatively new, and that the buyer doesn’t have to change Transynd or coolant because those are recently completed maintenance events and the buyer knows he has avoided thousands of dollars of expense.

Often the reason we provide advice about checking things like that is in an effort to help a novice Prevost buyer to avoid making a very expensive decision because they did not know what they did not know.

It was on this forum that a new owner bought a coach with a serious and expensive problem because the salesman told him “they all do that.” And not a single one of us had the opportunity to stick our nose in and help the fellow member because we did not know of the problem until after the owner was along side the road. The purchase price for advice he would have been given would have been free, but the advice would have proven very valuable.

I understand your thinking Ed, is in the context of your converter, but keep in mind we all have Prevost in common.

I never thought of my coach as a 26 ton barge of happiness, but it is a perfect description. Good one.

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I think it is important to understand when we toss around numbers and values if there is a question as to the source or if it is an opinion anyone, anytime should question it and ask for a source.

Gil makes a point and he is stating his interpretations which is not an unusual thing for people to do on a forum. Gil cites what he believes to be examples of the life of air bags and tires. If anyone reads the forums they will see similar information and they will also see contradictory information. It is up to the reader to sort out that which they want to believe.

Let’s take a few examples as Gil has pointed out. The tire manufacturers do not necessarily tell you how long the life of a tire is. But you can draw your own conclusions as to what you consider the life of a tire based on what they say. A tire manufacturer will warrant the tire for five or six years from the date of installation. Beyond that date they all say they will not offer any compensation for a tire failure. They also say from that date (5 or 6 years) tires must be regularly inspected and if sidewall cracks beyond a certain level are found the tire must be removed from service Michelin shows full size photos of sidewall cracks and defines at which level the cracks are such the tire has to be removed from service.

Every tire manufacturer says no matter when the tires were first installed, once they have reach the 10 year point from the date code on the tire the tire must be removed from service. Every owner has his or her own tolerance level for risk and as such information such as the above can be read and interpreted as the owner sees fit. Nobody on any forum can tell you what to do, but can tell you what they do. For me, I used to remove my tires at 6 years. based on the date code. I have a few years before I decide if I wish to continue the practice. What others do is up to them, but as a buyer I think purchasers should consider a tire to have no value at six years.

I arbitrarily established 10 years for the life of my air bags based on personal experience and anecdotal evidence. Others have picked up the practice and repeated it. Prevost on the other hand says drive them till they leak. The problem I have with that approach and it is strictly a personal decision is when they fail it is not always just a leak. If it was just a leak we would see the coach leaning and know we had a problem to fix. But if the failure is a blowout that is a different story. Trying to drive with a coach whose suspension is sitting down on the stops can be damaging and dangerous. So rather than face the prospect of sitting on the side of the road awaiting parts, or seeing the coach dragged onto a flatbed I opt to change perfectly good air bags before I need to. Ditto with brake chambers. Again, my point to buyers when I say stuff like that is you need to be aware our components have a life span and if you buy a coach with 10 year old air bags they may be perfectly fine, just like 6 year old tires, or they may be near failure. In that context there is a financial factor associated with 10 year old air bags just like there is with 6 year old tires.

The opinions we all have are often formed from experience. Potential purchasers who are about to make a large financial decision can be as conservative or as much a risk taker as they choose. Our collective opinions are likely to influence their purchase decisions and all we should be prepared to do if asked is to state if something we say is fact or opinion and if opinion, explain why we have formed the opinion.

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Clifford, I just edited this post by clicking on the “Edit” button at the bottom. You do have to be logged in, if your a Guest, it will give you the non access message. If you’re logged in and can’t edit this message, let me know and I get our web guy involved.

If you leave the computer for a time and come back to it, it may have timed out and even though you think your logged in, your not. Then you may be trying to edit your message as a Guest and it won’t let that happen. You have to login again. The security for the site is set that way in case you were using a public computer and just got up and left it on the PC site. It times out to keep someone from picking up where you left off and starts advertising blow up sheep!

Tom

Tom, it tells me “You are trying to access a area which is not yours” it has always done that when I try to edit is it me ?

I have a bad habit if something needs done like for the wife,grandkids or friends come in I hit the post button so I don’t loose it which I do anyway most of the time then I go back and edit

thanks for the reply

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I saw a new H-45 in Phoenix last week that had 3-24,000 btu 11 amp Webasto packaged units with heat pump and was amazed how cool the H-45 was in 112 degree heat with 2 running, as most here know a H-45 is a beast to cool

Check those out they were not much larger than the Crusieair I have but sure put out some cold air,the guy told me they making a 30,000 btu that was smaller in size but was 240 volts and drew less amps

Clifford

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Bay door locks too.

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I tried that with several paint shops in my local area for my Royale and struck out. They didn’t want to fool with it and one said I had to leave the sample and there was a fee to try to match. When I said OK, they then told me they couldn’t do a small touch up quantity.

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We left early Monday morning to visit friends in Wilmington on the way back to work. Really sorry we missed you. Awesome resort and we will absolutely come back next year. Good thing I wake up early though as there is a lot of leaf-blowing activity going on at zero-seven-thirty many days!!!

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tom you mind if i go buy there wed tomarow to look at it

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Nice job Gil. Here’s what mine looks like: