Greg
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I have feedback from our web guy.
He is aware of tapatalk and says it is a good thing. However it only works with “canned” forum software. Our forum is custom made so it will not work on it. Just so everyone is aware when Tom and I were having the PC web site and forum set up we opted to place the security of our members’ privacy as one of our priorities.
A number of us were victims of a previous web site in which the owner sold personal information and as a result a lot of information was available to anyone willing to look for it on the internet, including home addresses and cell phone numbers. So we opted for less features such as the elimination of a private message feature, and a forum that was wide open for public viewing but with protection of your registration information. So far so good.
FWIW private forums are not. We know that so-called private forums are set up so once a person has access that “intruder” can go to members’ profiles and harvest email addresses and other information made available through that feature. We have lost the ability to have some features in favor of preventing unwanted access to folks who would use that information in a way that could harm our members, thus our custom forum.
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Its ok. A little tight and be careful turning in from the highway, a little grade to it.
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Jeff, we were talking the other day about an alternate route to your place, Is it Boyce creek Hwy to Maryville and 411 to your place? Are their any low limbs are bridges that I woul have to worry about? I would exit at seiverville and go to Boyce creek hwy Gary
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Billy,
Your vintage coach probably has a 4 solenoid valve manifold. Just wanted to point that out because Tom is right except for earlier coaches. All later models have a 5 solenoid valve manifold. They also have an operating logic that differs from yours so you have to understand your system logic is not what most are now familiar with.
As to getting parts, you first have to determine if the solenoid valve coils in your coach are 12 or 24 volts. Use your multi-meter to check for the voltage as you apply power from the leveling system controls. I am guessing the second coil down on the manifold is the driving or road coil. Start with that one, key on, leveling system switch in the road position.
The top one should be to manually lower or raise the front, and the bottom two are for the rears.
If the coils have 24V power to them Prevost will have them. If not, try Liberty. As an alternative use the Norgren valve web site to find a local distributor or dealer.
I don’t believe Grainger can help you on any of the Norgren valves or components.
Don’t be alarmed if Prevost cannot give you specific detailed information on your leveling system. First, they are seeing fewer and fewer coaches of your vintage. Adding to their confusion is the fact only a few converters at the time your coach was built left the leveling system unmodified. Each converter had their own changes and Prevost has no information on those modifications. The system you have is almost the same as the standard Prevost system, but Liberty modified it to provide an automatic leveling feature and to do so they added additional valves in the steer compartment and their own switching to control the suspension.
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I don’t have to worry about “air” seals on my slides
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Start there because that is often a reported problem area. But if the leak is elsewhere, and the belt tensioner does not have a check valve or a good check valve I would expect the belts to go slack.
I want to add a comment. When I said not to concern yourself with the suspension because the bus is not leaning. That’s partly true. The Norgren valves that lock air in the suspension can leak on the inlet side so aux air is leaking from them. But start elsewhere because you want to get the easy stuff first. If you cannot identify leak sources easily then the next step is to advance to more difficult methods. Listening for leaks and spraying soapy water are the easy ways to isolate leaks. But when that fails you have to start pressurizing the various systems, looking for pressure drops, and then moving downstream until you get to the leaky component.
I would rather eat bees than have to chase leaks. I lack patience and to make a coach leak free or nearly so involves a lot of methodical, detailed, and time consuming effort.
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If it were me (and it’s not!) I would not replace it with a dome at all even if you don’t want to do HD today. I would install and antenna like the Winegard Trav’ler so you could get the most use out of your satellite TV (no rain fade, etc.) today and already have the necessary antenna in place when you do update your TV’s.
The money is only slightly more than a dome (new) would cost but you have an antenna that performs better and is future compatible. If you like in-motion, you can always attach that antenna to a DVR and just watch the recorded programming while driving. This also gets rid of all the dropouts you encounter every time you go past a tree, light pole or under a bridge.
Again, not me, not my coach, just thinking out loud.
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I just about busted a gut reading Tom’s story.
Here’s just a few of the things that occurred during my first trip a few years ago after just purchasing my first coach, a used ’04 XL:
I closed the gas island down after blowing numerous gallons of diesel all over the place thinking that I could fill it from both sides full blast. Yes, they kept pumping away while I was proudly washing my windshield at the time. Stopped at the same station on the way home, went in to pay and realized that I was missing my credit card. After standing there thinking about it, I asked the clerk if he had it (from my trip out). Sure enough, he did. How convenient.
After my arrival in Vail, CO, I went to hook up the sewer line to drain the tanks for the first time. Looked under the bus to figure out why the PVC cap wouldn’t come off. Figured it was under pressure being in the mountains. While applying elbow grease with my face directly beneath, it popped off. Ended up with a face full of crap. Previous owner’s, mind you.
On way home, I-70 was hit with the first snow storm of the season. I found myself sliding sideways trying to get up Loveland Pass. My heart was pounding out of my chest thinking that I was going to go over the mountain side. When finally going down hill, my dash ABS warning lights were flashing. Now, I’m thinking that I’m going to have to find the nearest runaway truck pullover lanes – the ones that look like they might save your life but with nothing less than a pelvic fracture.
Oh yes, I took out a street light out on a novice turn, dragged my toad a few hundred yards with the wheels locked up, and even a few others – I could go on and on.
Looking at the brighter side, I was glad to get all of those things out of the way on just one bus trip. Lucky me.
Now, I’m hooked.
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Tom…
Surely you’re not going back to a plastic coach next??
Congrats on your new to you H … I think you will love it !!
Cheers to you & Nancy,
Diane
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Apparently I am going to need to upgrade mine too. As has been mentioned on here before, the Tracvision LM is apparently a paperweight these days. So I’ll jump in behind Rick hoping to find someone who has upgraded and has their old dome. I don’t know that I need a specific brand or anything. Just something that works… Thanks.
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The inside of the engine is completely sealed separating for oil from all other parts.
So our oil dipstick follows it way to the bottom of the oil pan and coats the lower part with oil. Let’s say 10 gallons is called for exact amount for normal operation of the engine. As the engine rotates the crankshaft splashes oil along with an internal oil pump that pumps oil to the upper part of the engine. Every thing is turning smoothly with no restrictions as parts go round and round.
Now if you fill to 35 gallons of oil inside the engine what usually happens with the pistons moving up and down they push oil inside with tremendous force and something has to give. It only takes a second when the engine starts that movement restricts travel because of the large volume of oil. Something will give or if oil has made it’s way inside the piston cylinder it locks up usually bending the connecting rod attached to the piston.
That’s how the term hydraulic lock came to ID this disaster.
Many engine dipsticks carry a warning, something like “do not overfill ” Better to be a quart low then a quart over full.
I’am using a engine as a example of a quart low.. I’am also thinking some of my relatives fall into this example, just kidding.
Hope this helps MM.
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Wow, welcome Grizz, haven’t talked with you for years!!!! Glad you’ve signed on
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Hey I appreciate that Robert ….. I can get tunnel vision and not step back and reason sometimes. I check the oil pressure sendor with and without the wire and no change but also seen no change with the oil sendor and a continuity check. So going to replace sendor tomorrow and see what happens. I will let ya know the results. Thanks again guys for all the help !!!
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We have done the tours every which way and would go back again in a heartbeat. There is so much to take in it cannot be done in a day or even several.
Ditto on the food. We ate at the restaurant on the grounds (I don’t think it was the stables) and it was great. The winery is a must see and the same with the gardens.
Every time we had the bus and you can actually take the bus to every venue.
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Make sure that when you tour the Biltmore Estate to get the audio tour. It’s only a few extra bucks and well worth it.