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That solenoid on mine is labeled,, (R4) Starter Solenoid,, on door schematic.

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Glen,

Please make sure you investigate whether S&S really knows what they are talking about when it comes to Detroit 2 cycles. Just because its says Detroit Diesel on the outside of the building, does not mean they have a “seasoned” mechanic to work on 2 cycles.

We had a customer who was at a S&S in Farmington New Mexico, the mechanics could not figure out how to re-install our 2 cycle engine without several phone conferences with our “tech guy”. Some of the questions they were asking were pretty scary. But at least they had the sense to call and ask with the help of the customer who encouraged them to call. It took them a week to install it.

I would encourage you to maybe insist that you meet the mechanic who will be working on your engine. If he is young, I would be concerned. If he looks stubborn, REALLY greasy, smells like diesel fuel, and has a half smoked cigerette in his front shirt pocket….. Thats your man!

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I only have one controller for my antenna (to my knowledge), which is in my rear closet compartment with all the other A/V equipment. This controller is the one which “raises/lowers” the antenna and then “rotates” the antenna. I looked at the wiring and it looks like this is “plug & play” wiring into the controller.

I’m not sure what you’re talking about with the booster? If you take a pic it could help me to better identify what you’re talking about.

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What is going on? Intermitant issues, or failure to operate….Sounds like it is most of the functions within the spyder controls….??

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What looked like the head of a large CB on the first photo turns out to be the receiver for the cover screw so that is good news because it shows all the heat was concentrated in the area of the solenoid. But due to the color shift on the paint on the electrical box that box saw some very high temps for an extended period. An internal arc would not have the duration needed.

Clearly the solenoid needs to be replaced along with any wires that have had the insulation damaged. There might be rubber compounds that can be applied to bare wires to replace the insulation and if the wires leave the box via the wire bundle that might have to be how the repairs are made.

But none of this yet seems to answer why that solenoid got so hot for such long time period it did so much heat damage. In one of the newer photos it looks like some of the box paint was blistered. The bus was just short of having a fire which makes assessing the cause of the problem pretty important.

I hope I have retained some of the solenoids I used to carry for spares and if so they are for you Harry. I’ll look this afternoon.

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Here are pictures I took on the same day as the first one I posted. If there is something else you want to see let me know and I’ll go down to the coach and take them. They should be back tomorrow to put the starter back in. I do not remember seeing other melted wires or a smell of any kind. Also, the coach engine hardly turned over so power from the ignition to the starter/relay was very brief.

Harry

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Thanks Bob and folks on the info. Will keep you all posted on the outcome. Get this problem tackled and got a few more fires to put out on the coach. Always something.

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air box is a large collection box after pressurized air by blower and turbo. two ways it can get out of box.. when the piston opens up past a intake port( no valve) or our air box drains. the air box drains are check valves that close at 7-9 hundred rpm and seal to outside. at regular idle below 700 rpm they are open to drain. Blower seals or turbo seals for their oil supply are the only thing ahead of air box. do let me/us know outcome. your oil level should be 3/4 inch below oilpan/ block line. Bob

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No blow by on the breather tubes or exhaust. Just oil out the air box drains check vavle tubes..

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Andy, please don’t interpret this as disrespect, but there is an awful lot of so called experts whose vision on how the chassis or conversion is screwed together is severly limited and while what they say may sound real impressive, it tends to make viewers think the information they are passing along is the gospel and applies to all coaches.

If you have not figured it out yet, let me be the first to tell you that both the chassis and conversions are works in progress, and what might be true for a specific coach may be completely wrong for chassis or conversions a few serial numbers before and after.

I have had 3 Liberty coaches over the past 27 years and I can generalize a little, be specific on some things and clueless on others. The lesson I have learned is NOBODY including me and everyone that works on them professionally can come close to knowing what they need to know. I am sure like me I have to look at shop manuals, look on the internet for the operating manuals for the various components and then often just keep my mouth shut because I don’t have a clue. I know as a newbie I thought everyone with more experience than me knew stuff. They did, but like a considerable number of us our knowledge is severly limited to those things we have been trained in, repaired ourselves, or studied. And you are too new to know who is real and who is pretending.

I hope your videos make the viewers realize the complexity of trying to do a universal training series.

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Nice try Buddy, as you can see in the first picture, the batwing was in perfect condition. You’ve been hanging around Vonore way to long, are you now on commission?

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We did the same a month ago… easy replacement for the old Concord !! Picked up NO channels with it at Catherine’s Landing in Hot Springs… hope its better in other places. Will put it to the test next weekend.

Mine is installed in the lower part of the rear roof where the Concord was and I wonder if it may be too low… but like I said I will test it next weekend.. I only get a few channels with it here in Lufkin but I think that is to be expected.

Will post results next weekend.

Cheers, Diane

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Beautiful Coach Harry!

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Will,

Jon will start an investigation on the posting of investigations concerning investigations that are investigating investigations on investigations.

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Wow!!!! Beautiful coach. Looks like it might have a little updating on the the interior. Love the wood.

This proves there are great older Prevost coaches out there for very reason money. Once Harry gets the starting issue fixed, Harry will really enjoy this coach.