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Jon or Tom do you think it can go bad????
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Darrell,
This is probably out of the scope of this Thread, but I noticed your coach description and I have to ask. What are no-see-um rivets ?
Sorry, I am trying to learn as much as I can about the newer Prevost XL’s. Tom also has “with rivets” on his description. But might be referring to the delam repairs. I thought 2000 and up were smooth, no-rivets.
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Thanks! They are still going strong for me and I frequently dry camp (maybe that’s better than plugged in all the time!). I recently updated to a 3000W PSW inverter with a 150amp charger and it does a great job getting them back up to full charge quickly. I don’t see any difference (so far) between the 2 battery performance profile but I do know that the Universal Batteries are substantially lighter than the Lifeline so if that’s less lead or less something it’s certainly possible they will only last 5-6 years but I am OK with that. It’s just easier for me to spend $1200 now and $1200 in 5 years than it is for me to spend $2400 today.
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Ron,
First, thanks for your 30 years of enforcement efforts. Having worked 43 years on highway projects in close proximity to high speed traffic I learned early on the value of law enforcement being present.
Our problem here in NC is that speeding citations are routinely reduced to “Prayer for Judgement Continued” especially for what appears to be a first time offender. If they are not a first time offender, for the second charge the offender gets their gharge reduced by the court system to “Improper Equipment.” Both of these have no impact on insurance rates and other than possible lawyer costs, the fine is only $250 once you get to the “Improper Equipment” deal. For the third speeding violation the offender is treated to a reduced charge to 9 miles per hour over the posted speed limit, which in NC also does not carry insurance consequences but it does carry an increased fine, I think its still less than $1000 plus of course court costs.
I have lots of stories about citizen calls for reduced speed limits. The problem was not really a need for a reduced speed limit, especially when it was posted as the maximum state statutory speed, it was more the number of people that see a posted speed limit as a “recommended” value. One call I received from a lady wanting a reduced speed limit posted on a soil road less than half a mile long. Her reason, “My 9 year old has nothing to do when he gets home from school so I let him drive my car up and down the road. I don’t want someone hitting him.” I ended the call and immediately dialed the NC Highway Patrol First Sargeant. Related the lady’s call and the time of day when the 9 year old could be found driving on a State system road. I don’t know if any action was taken, I just know I never heard from that lady again.
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“All I can think of is if I get behind a slow truck I have no reserve power to pass. That big fat Volvo with 500 hp and 1750 lb. ft. of torque sure sounds good and the 600 hp Cummins even a little better with1950 lb. ft. of torque.”
I am just not capable of getting my brain around the concept of why the standard Prevost engine isn’t adequate. All will agree we can exceed any speed limit so it is not the ability to go fast that is the issue. And if through some circumstance we get stuck behind a slow truck we cannot pass because we lack the HP, I wonder if the average user is going to suffer any loss if he has to remain in the slow lane for a few minutes?
And it is not HP, it is torque that decides how fast you climb that hill.
I see a Newell in MM’s future. Too many issues that appear to be Prevost deal breakers from wide center windshield posts to the lack of hill climb ability.
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Hi Red,
I am still working until December and our big trip is scheduled for March 2015. We do have a route planned but we are going to be flexible in how long we stay in one place. Right now I am guessing about 4 months to cover over 7,000 miles. -
OK so we got some good news from Gil (thank you again) and some good( and about 5lbs of bad) from Roger LOL.
I cant tell you folks how much this info is appreciated. by the way I will be at lazy Days trying to get around and peronally thanking everyone. -
Moab is a must see and Portal RV Resort is a good place to stay. However, Zion and Bryce is even more spectacular. Zion River RV Resort is a good place to stay. Warning summer is hot in Utah. Heading to Wyoming stop in Salt Lake and stay at KOA on North Temple. Lots to see. If you like Mexican food be sure to eat at the Red Igquana down the street from the KOA. Assume you are then heading to Jackson and Yellowstone. In Jackson the Virginian is the only game in town for RV’s. Not much, but it will do. If you are going to Yellowstone Grizzly RV Resort in West Yellowstone would be my choice. Hope this helps.
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I have had questions about the Prevost pricing strategy before and when I discussed this with the folks in Elgin the advice I was offered was to shop for better pricing. They do not formulate the pricing structure in Elgin so all they can do is help us with suggestions like that along with providing trade numbers on commodity items.
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OK so I’m sitting here in the parking lot at Prevost Jax headed to NJ for a week and I departed from Pelican yesterday, so I couldn’t partake in the super bowl festivities. Does anyone know who happened to to cash in on the Super Bowl pool? I hope someone who is on a fixed income was able to reap the benefit.
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Bernie,
I asked that very question about the air on a Newell. The Salesguy said that generally no, the airs are not wired up to run without the genny running but they could certainly do it if I want it.
On the generator, I really know nothing about them and the salesguy explained how nice and industrial the Martin’s are built.
Mark
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The only thing I would add here is the issues associated with a bad battery. The last time we had an issue with batteries we could smell the rotten egg smell. The smell is not so bad,,,,, it is the idea that everything in the bays has been exposed to the acid fumes. Not good on the entertainment center or other adjacent bays and their non-acid friendly contents.
I was not aware that an AGM battery could and would expell gas like that when it fails. They advertise as a sealed non-maintenance battery but that just means sealed so you can not add water. They are still vented.
Hopefully the gassing battery is found before it has time to really do some damage. In my mind Jon has the right idea about changing them before they fail. Besides piece of mind you are preventing the chance of damaging anything else including the Cruisair, Wabasto and entertainment equipment located in that area.
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We currently have a 425 hp engine and weigh just over 40,000 lbs. We go slow up hills. A Prevost that weighs 50,000 lbs. and has a 500 hp engine would go fairly slow I would assume. Will there be a different force of power? The Newell has a 600 hp engine and weighs about 50,000 lbs., you do the math.
Before I let loose of nearly $2M, I want to make sure I don’t make a mistake. The Newell’s exterior looks just like a H3 with very robust components.
I’m just trying to compare all options. Newell’s have windows in the 1/2 bathroom, Prevosts do not.
Since Prevost Car out of Canada knows that many of the coaches are converted to motorhomes, I just wonder why they don’t offer a larger engine.
I’m not giving up on Prevost just yet, I have a lot to think about.
MM.
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For those unaware of the value of that statement by Bob, you have to understand Bob has owned more coaches than I have fingers on both hands, and he knows and understands them.
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No doubt compression fittings are very expensive, but their cost is dirt cheap compared to paying someone to chase and fix air leaks in push in fittings.
Some push in fittings are just difficult if not possible to get to release the air line. On more than one I have given up and cut the tube as close to the fitting as possible, and then replaced the fitting with compression.
Having said that however, some fitting locations will only accept push in 90 degree fittings that swivel unless you are prepared to get creative in changing more than just a fitting. In that case get a new DOT push in fitting and expect that in time you will be replacing it again.