Andy
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We’ve closed out this thread and started a new one for the Winter AutoFest in an attempt to seperate the November AutoFest from the February.
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I am having problem getting access to the Prevost
Community Facebook site. As it is a
closed group, I have requested approved several times, and even messaged Tom
Chilcote – still no luck. All I want to do is see the pictures of Buddy’s
shinny bus! What am I missing in my
efforts to get access to the site? Any
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Bernie,
I cannot disagree with the “arrogance” remark, just that it did not add to the discussion of the topic. The point I was trying to make is if we ever want converters or others important to us to participate we do need to dial back some of what we say while we stay focussed on a discussion which attacks the subject such that we get all the comments from both sides out on the table.
Among ourselves I am all in favor of spirited discussions especially when we are taking shots at each other’s choice of conversion. That’s what we do.
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Frank took some heat here. I don’t think all of it was justified, but regardless he has to get high marks for hitting the issue head on.
For those who have not had any experience dealing with Liberty it might be easy to take shots at what a previous poster called arrogance or high prices, but I can tell anyone that will listen that if you have a Liberty and you have a problem it is going to be takne care of. Until I bought my current coach I owned two other Liberty coaches and had never spent a penny with Liberty. Yet despite that every time I needed information or help Liberty was there. At rallies they would fix the coach and not charge a penny.
I happen to believe when it comes to building a coach or supporting a coach they built they set the standard and everyone else follows. I have heard stories over the years about other converters and know there is a difference.
On this issue I expect their internet program is going to change and limits will be imposed. I think when the program was created the large use of data was beyond anyone’s imagination. Frank and Liberty got caught up in this situation, but so did some folks like the cell phone service providers and they are all rewriting their programs.
Flame me all you want for my remarks above, but they are not stated to pander to an advertiser or suck up to Liberty so I get a good deal. I am making the remarks based on 25 years of experience.
In case anyone thinks it would be great if the converters all participated in our forums, please understand we would love to see that. But realisticly speaking when they do that they are exposed to remarks, criticism, and cheap shots so they typically avoid situations in which they cannot win.
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Really…. Ben has not paid the bill ?
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If you haven’t any plans for the dates of the event, by all means sign up and attend.
If you women think this is a guy thing, nothing could be further from the truth. There are some guy things like rummaging through old car parts and memorabelia, but that is when the ladies can participate in a winery tour or shopping in Lakeland with the provided transportation. Di wasn’t sure about the auction, never having been to one, but she and I are going back for certain. There is such a variety of special interest cars that she now wants to see if there is one we can bid on and buy next time.
I know Tim and Bill have more plans for the February event even though it is hard to imagine any way possible to improve on this one that just concluded. This has been our best rally which I think is saying a lot because over our 25 plus years of Prevost ownership we have been to many.
Do not pass up this event.
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Do you have to be a Prevost Owner to attend
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I have a fairly extensive background with Rolls-Royce Silver Clouds. Assuming you are not joking about towing one, there certainly are no normally commercially available baseplates. The bumper and frame configuration does not make it practical to mount a baseplate in the typical fashion used on more modern vehicles.
The car is heavy and will need a supplemental braking system and again the braking system Mr. Mark describes does not lend itself to anything on the market today and would be a difficult engineering exercise to design one.
The stainess steel grill shell on a Silver Cloud is the most recognizable aspect of this era Rolls-Royce. It requires a lot of work to restore and keep in pristine condition. It would not fair well in the environment that exist behind a motorhome.
Given the above, I’m sure Buddy is jerking us around and pulling our leg… However, I did see this car in the RV campground just the othe side of the river at the Louisville Rolls-Royce Owner’s Club annual meet a few years back.
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we are full timers in the DC area. When the temp hits freezing, we turn on a water heater in the bay and fire up the webasto. If you don’t have shore power, run your generator. You’ll be ok. The webasto is a fantastic furnace. Just ensure your fresh water is full and you have plenty of diesel in the tank.
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My side window is a little different than yours but I just took the window out myself and used it as a template for my glass company. They made a new thermal pane and I re-installed it. I think the cost was about $165 for the glass and 10 bucks for a tube of sealent. I just noticed my door window is starting to fog up also – I guess I’ll be doing that one next:). Just make sure they know it is for an automotive application so they use the appropriate glass.
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Roger that Jon…
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Tom…
I am not interested in a debate on this but in Texas, it is true just like anywhere else, if a motorcoach and car have different state license plates, it simply raises the bar as to possible evasions of state fees or taxes. In Texas, if a motorcoach is “stopped” for whatever reason… the State Trooper has several questions that will be asked of the motorcoach driver. You could anticipate these very easily.
Remembering that the Trooper is an officer of the court and lying to an officer of the court can be construed as obstruction of justice… the following line of questioning can and does occur..in varying forms..
Sir… may I see your license and insurance information? (In Texas, registration is not requested)
Sir… I note that you are a rsident of the State of Texas…. is that correct? (the answers being yes!)
Sir…Is this your motorcoach?
Sir… I note it has an out of State license and an out of State address for the insurance? How long have you been in the State with the coach? (This is a very valid question because the Trooper is seeking to ascertain a specific bit of information..(.he already now knows the owner is a resident of Texas)
Sir… Where do you domincile the motorcoach? (The answer to this question is very, very important)
Sir… Do you have a receipt for the place of domicile? out of State? In State?
It is at this point that the attorneys among us will go absolutely nuts…. I get it…. so let me explain that this process I am presenting may not be the exact line of questioning ….they are better than I have presented here….but you get the idea that the owner of the coach, if in fact the coach is domiciled in Texas, is now feeling the heat… and it would seem smart to not create any further issues ….
Every State has its own statutes and procedures… whether or not the “Trooper” had proper cause to stop the motorcoach can always be argued…trust me, they will find a reason…but if so… the issue at hand is still germane…
Think on this… a coach costing $300M to $800M has a road use fee of between $19,000 / $24,000 on the $300M coach and $48M / $64M on the $800M coach depending on 6.25% road use fees or 8.25% sales taxes. These numbers are large and in court, they are very serious numbers plus interest and penalties.
Food for thought… presented in the spirit of a good discussion again…
Pres
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In the more than 25 years we have owned a Prevost we have seen and heard just about every reaction possible.
Initially due to the relatively low number of coaches in private hands we were a novelty and people seemed to expect Garth Brooks to be driving it, or to step out of it at a rest area. We got a lot of smiles and thumbs up as we were passed. In campgrounds people would take their evening walks so they would pass the coach, and if we were out they had a lot of questions.
Unfortunately with the passing of driving skills among truckers we have noticed resentment slipping in. Drivers with CBs went from curious such as how many does it sleep, or how much does it cost, to being identified as rich bastards.
Today a Prevost is not uncommon. I won’t say they are everywhere, but with Prevost now the bus of choice for entertainers, and with the number of motor homes on the road the truckers tend to no longer have any curiousity. If we stay in high quality RV resorts we will not be alone. If we tend to stay at smaller, older RV parks we stand out and some people view us as stuck up until conversations start. The people that make nasty remarks about Prevost owners really do not understand who we are how we came about being able to acquire a Prevost, and fail to see that regardless of the typo of rig all RVers are having just as much fun.
I really believe if there is resentment towards us it is because our government and its politicians have done a real number on us by constantly repeating comments about the 1%ers, the rich paying their fair share, and other divisive remarks which paints people that drive expensive cars, or live in big houses, or who drive a Prevost as uncaring mean people.
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Glen I am paying , I like it that way I have more control on what’s being done
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What other site are you guys talking about? Put it up so we can see.
Dick – This is what’s on the wall at Jeff’s by the door for all to see.
All you folks out there in service land should take a good look at this and make a note of the name.
