[Bob]

Wow……..I looked at the sign ups last night and we are still 4 months away from the rally and more than half the sites allotted to us are now filled.

If you are planning to attend, sign up now because I have a feeling this rally is going to have more folks who want to attend than we have available spaces.

[Bob]

Gil. It was simple procedure that we didn’t have the desire to tackle. They pulled us up about 915. Started to pull the strip out about 945 after bringing the scissors lift up. Pull the glass out, slipped the new one in and we were parked and at a local restaurant at 11:30. Our restaurant receipt states time. 11:37 am, the time of ordering.. Makes me wonder about Jason’s estimate to replace our fixed driverside window. 8-10 hours at $110/hr plus $249 which isn’t bad for the dual pane glass. Total to replace windshield was $421 labor, $219 for windshield, equals $640. Yikes

i never thought I would need to “stop-watch” Mira Loma, but we will next time. On another note, we had az Level One service done there this last February. Part of the service includes test the SCA’s in our coolant. They didn’t do that. I mentioned this to Bill Jensen in a Branson, he said the testing was part of servicing coach. I have had to ask every time for SCA testing and this time the answer was no test strips

[Bob]

Just so no Liberty owner makes an error in ordering, check the voltage on Norgren system solenoid valve coils. Some will be 12 volt and some will be 24 volt depending on the model. Regardless of whether you order from Liberty or Prevost or a distributor it is good practice to specify voltage.

[Bob]

Peter,

Were you seeing signs of oil or just did it as a PM?

[Bob]

There is no back up! Prob freed the old girl up.. Would watch her close make sure she did not have a spot that got rough while stuck . If it goes back wards you any you know your in for a rebuild! Got time to shop now. The governer is low dollar (under 20$) and throws allot of the same symptoms of a failed compressor. With the rear floor pannel out easy change.—-this should prob be over in Home builder.. Happy Thanksgiving Busnuts. Bob

[Bob]

Ok, yesterday I spent 5 hours trying to remove the overhead compartments. Man are these Prevost built tough. Got no where fast. Can’t do a lot of cutting with sawzall. Got a wiring harness that goes from the front to the back through the compartment bins. Got to figure this one out because I do not want to have to rewire it. Oh, got it torn apart but still didn’t get any of the compartments down yet. Looks like it’s going to be a TUFFIE!

[Bob]

If you don’t care about fuel burn and you need pulling power, screw the economy and anytime you need it drop a gear.

I would never consider any aftermarket power enhancing because they just will never get the testing and reliability the manufacturers of the engine will put into their engines.

[Bob]

Robert,

Obviously you understand you are going to get the engine Volvo installs. From the beginning of time folks wanted other than what Prevost offered and I can remember when the first Prevost forums were active owners wondering if they could install a Cat or a Cummins.

My experience with the Volvo is that I stood next to one that was running. Having said that I can say it is a quieter engine than any of the ones I have seen, driven or heard. I know it has extended service intervals. Prevost told us in training sessions the benefits of the Volvo over the Series 60 is because of the way the emissions system is designed it will deliver better fuel economy. They also said that it has a much improved torque curve in that it reaches peak torque at a lower RPM than the S-60, and holds peak torque for longer. The S-60 by comparison delivers peak torque at a higher RPM and falls off rather quickly. Because of that I believe the gearing is such that at highway speeds the engine is at a lower RPM which translates into better fuel economy.

The only true answer however is to contact a bus fleet owner that has data for both engines and see if their data supports what Prevost is claiming.

Mark is correct. The Volvo does deliver about 100 ft/lbs more torque.

If you want performance and economy you already know the answer. Put your new coach on a diet and keep your foot off the accelerator. The stacker trailer is going to cost you because nobody that I know that tows one hauls around sailboat fuel so you have the impact of weight affecting mileage and performance.

[Bob]

When the dust settled making Volvo the Prevost owner that was the end pretty much for S-60. With over one million S-60 engines made you finally get it right for dependable service.

Just takes a few 1000 engines to really show how good Volvo’s are. With all the things that can happen at this point your probably pretty good to have a reliable engine.

Always said I wanted to have Wednesday built stuff.

No facts on this post….Just an opinion and its free.

Helping you keep your sense of humor………

AL

[Bob]

thanks a lot Tom the cold does bring out the leaks have fun Happy Thanksgiving .. And hope you get everything working right did not know of that kind of norgrens thanks for the info……

[Bob]

Hish,

As a damn Yankee I have learned what is freezing to some is a sauna to others.

When my aunt and uncle returned from living in Saudi to move to FL I visited them. If it was below 85 they were freezing. On the other hand the temps in my coach are just about right when I have to turn on the wipers to get the condensation off the windshields while driving.

I think Robert will need a large number of roof airs because his customers want to be cool. He will have them not necessarily to fight the heat as much as for backup. We used to see 4 roof ACs on enetertainer coaches. Then 5, and now it is not unusual to see six with them located side by side instead of in a row. Pretty soon he will not be able to find room for the two satellite dishes.

[Bob]

Found the websight, a life saver for sure! Thanks!

[Bob]

Maybe a filter problem or oil pressure sending unit.

[Bob]

There is no break away valve. Don’t take this wrong, but if that line is compromised the resulting leak will be noticed, but you will still have ample air pressure to bring the coach to a safe stop. I would never suggest you drive in that condition, but I would be more concerned about a brake chamber diaphragm failing, in which case the resulting leak would be substantial. Remember, on the service break side of the system you will never lose air pressure unless you apply the brakes so all is OK until you need to make a stop and with planning minimal air pressure will be lost.

In the case of a breakaway if the break occurred between the quick connect and the toad, merely disconnect the toad air line and no more leak. If the hose from the relay valve to the quick connect fitting is what is broken it would have to be plugged or shut off by clamping it with vice grips for example.

[Bob]

Dewey,

Ground clearance issue could be at the “drop hitch”. We used a 6 inch drop while towing our 1999 Range Rover behind 1999/2001 Country Coach XL 45 2 slide back in 2002. Going in and out of dips in parking lots etc, we did dragged the bottom of the drop, but not the towbar

if the Fit has tow tab height of 14 inches and your coach has receiver/tow bar height of 14 inches with full suspension compression, your total suspension travel from deflation to full extension is 7 inches. Your ride height level is somewhere in the middle of the 7 inch suspension travel. At best IMHO your tow bar would be about 31/2 inches tipped up toward the coach. If you use a 2 inch or even 3 inch drop, you won’t be dragging . On another forum you read about coach rear end dragging, did it pertain to a gas powered coach you see on the roads with 16 ft of tail overhang? That would drag everything in a big dip. Have you measured coach receiver height, at coach operational ride height. That would show you your true tow bar angle with Your Honda Fit connected