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Tim I can’t sell a bus that’s not 100%, could not sleep at night , still looking for the next one

[Billy]

Peter sounds like your coaches would be the one to buy as they are as good as new or close as could be when you sell um. When you sell, do you take trade ins and a check?? LOL!

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You bet Glen for you anything it’s better than new that’s for sure

[Peter]

Well the coach is all done now , weather was bad so I waited until now to get it , both side panels taken off and redone and repainted old patio awning taken off and replaced with window awning Prevost really did a great job the best , it may be one of the best XL lls. Going done the road, next to Toms with no slides , all motor parts replaced all under bus parts replaced , and insides or liberty parts replaced ,and Delma done on bottom panels with rivets and strips old pic with patio awning on

[Bill]

[Peter]

You replaced a huge, mechanically operatored awning with a smaller, manual awning?

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No Dick it was the bullshit air auto awning that everybody has trouble with , I could have put a manual one on but I don’t use it I like the window awnings for shade they work the best for me

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Looked at an XLII 45 that had the Prevost patch panel rivet process done. Question: is it common for the stainless panel under bedroom slide of any panel to move in and out when pushing your finger against it. Either side was stabilized with no see um rivers with patch cover. Rest of the coach seemed tight

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J&C

Mine don’t move. Original, not “patched”. Prevost inspected the coach about a year ago and found no de-lam problem.

I wonder if it was riveted when it was very cold and once the sun hit it what remained of the adhesive popped loose.

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Jim, going by memory here and maybe Tom can correct this if I mis-speak.

When Prevost does the skin repairs it does not remove the panels unless they are damaged accidently when doing the repair.

They lift the panel to the extent possible, clean the areas where the panel was originally bonded and re-bond the panel to the extent possible. That means that some areas of the panel may not be re-bonded because they cannot safely get between the frame and the panel.

They then apply the “Zee strip across the top of the panel (behind the upper band) and seal and rivet the strip to prevent moisture from getting behind the panel. The ends of the panels are resealed, drilled and riveted and covered with the stainless steel strips that hide the rivets, and the bottom of the panel is resealed and riveted.

The top and bottom bands are then reapplied to cover the rivets at the top and bottom as well as hiding the Zee strip.

It a coach has the panel repair with the strips its entire perimeter is riveted and sealed and there is the possibility the center of the panel may not have been pulled far enough from the frame during the repair work to fully bond the panel, but there should be no concern about the panels being sealed or any panels coming loose.

A review of the Prevost work order will reveal clues about if the original panels were retained which would explain some “oil canning” or if they were totally replaced in which case they were completely bonded to the frame.

[Jimmy]

That makes sense, Jon. Everywhere else we pushed on were solid as a rock.

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Thread drift but sure miss Peter and the insight he had. Always had time to talk. RIP Pete.

[Brady]

God job with your due diligence C’bus, it amazes me how so many people take the plunge for an XLII with no concern of delam, a potential 40K nightmare.

[Bob]

This is a cynical opinion, but if I was considering the purchase of an XLII, even if i saw the vertical strips that hide the rivets I would insist on seeing the Prevost work order.

Here’s why I am cynical. I know of a company that has “repaired” panels that have delaminated. The cost to do the entire repair the way Prevost developed the repair is very expensive but also a permanent repair. Once done it will never be a problem again.

A company that wants an XLII to appear completely repaired only has to have the stainless steel cover strips made and applied over the joints. It then appears Prevost did the work. The real repair is far more than riveting or sealing the vertical joints, with the Zee strip sealing against moisture being a major but expensive part of making the correct repair.

I would just want to verify Prevost did the work because that is the real value added.