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Side panel delamination on XLII models
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I spoke with Prevost on a few occasions, The good thing is that it appears that the previous owner serviced the coach at Prevost JAX regularly. So they are familiar with the coach. I have an appointment in a few weeks to check out the leaks/panels. So everyone is most accomodating, which has always been my experience at Prevost. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it’s an easy fix.
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Rick,
The answer is going to be simple to determine. If you are exhibiting no evidence of loose panels all you should expect is some sleuthing to chase down the origin of the leak. If your panels are loose it is no longer a simple repair and the only correct fix will be to shedule for the current repair procedure.
FWIW I sealed the gap between the upper band that runs the full length of the coach just beneath the windows. Now no water running down from the upper skin can get behind the band or behind the stainless panels below that band. I had no problems but did that as a preventive measure. After seeing how the upper fiberglass panel and the stainless panels below the windows are secured at that point behind the band I was glad I did because if moisture can get into that area the potential for a leak is there.
Hop up on a ladder and look down on the top of the band. If you see gaps those could be entry points for water. Once water gets behind the band it could find its way behind the stainless panels below it. I masked the upper skin and the top of the band and filled the gap with RTV silicone. I smoothed it even with the top of the band. When I removed the tape the seal is only between the band and the top skin and is invisible unless you look down from above it. Now the band becomes a drip edge and moisture running down the sides from above just drips off the band on the face of the band, not behind it.
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Jon: Old buddy, old Pal, can you do mine?
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Roger,
I’ll show you how. How’s that for a deal?
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Learning here, so bear with me.
So if the band at the top needs caulking will that prevent leaking into the bays and does that mean there is no panel problem? I would think a panel would be loose if water could run down.
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Jon:
Showing me is not as good as doing it for me, but it was worth a try.
I’ll take you up on the offer.
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I thought that Libertys were immuned from the dreaded panel malfunction.
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Only Immune when hitched up to a Subaru.
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Well I know that a Subaru tow car will never be in your future as there is not enough “Extra Storage” space in a Subaru when compared to an Avalanche!
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After reading another website, I made this post and thuoght it might interest people here.
Im a newbee here, but also read other sites and forums and what I don’t
understand is why the stainless panel problems with the XLII doesn’t get
any discussion when it drastically effects the coach value. Either the seller or the buyer is going to have to deal
with it and it seems like most hide their heads in the sand and hope it
goes away. I havehe same problem, prevost might fix the panel, but I
will eat about 20 thousand in paint work.Does this not concern any of you and the value of your bus? My bus value
is now in the dumpster unless I sell to someone who is unaware. Are
buses now being flipped quickly by dealers and brokers to get rid of the
stainless problem to buyers that don’t have a clue? It seems that might be happening. -
Harvey,
I’ll put all your other comments aside, as you are entitled to your opinion but your insinuation about the activity at Tampa ( I think about 12 coaches were sold from that show) that the coaches sold were passed with problems to buyers who think they got a good deal and are unaware is a little off the reservation. Just my opinion. I’m curious what is the other site that gave you that info? -
rick,
Since that was told to me and I’l just consider it hearsay, I have removed my comment. I have no knowledge that it was fact, but suppose anything is possible. Sorry.
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Tom and I don’t want to participate in any discussion of the panels, but we also don’t want any unfounded statements to stand unless they are clearly defined as opinions.
I can say from personal experience regarding the purchase of my current coach the panels were repaired prior to my purchase of the bus, the converter (Liberty) was very open about it being repaired and they went so far as to include a copy of the shop order.
Harvey, I can tell you for sure nobody swept anything under the rug, nor did they try to pass off a problem on me. Please cite your source.
On edit our posts were made almost at the same time and when I wrote the above I did not see your post above. Thanks.
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Jon and Harvey,
Harvey you are a gentlemen. I think most everyone is aware of the delam problem. As far as sales and prices, my feeling is Prevost prices tanked just like the economy. Like housing, my opinion is that they have bottomed and people are coming off the sidelines to buy. When you consider the price of a new unit, a used Prevost is a bargain and, it looks like the new one! I have a lot in Pelican Lake and we have 2 RV shows and not only was I at Tampa, I bought a unit there. It just appeared to me that there was more enthusiasm which resulted in good sale results at both venues. Besides myself I had 2 friends buy pre-owned units, we were all aware of the delam problem and bought accordingly. -
All the sales folks are pretty busy and that’s a good thing. I too bought in January, so we’re doing our best to stimulate the bus activity. Now if we could just get the price of fuel to ease up a little!
Rick – I think they spiked the water at the convention center!:) Glad I wasn’t there, I might have ended up with slides…
As to the panels, it’s buyer beware, do your homework and ask the seller questions. Like Jon, I bought mine at Liberty and the panel issue was addressed right up front.
If you’re looking, go buy a bus, there may not be a better time.
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