[Harry]

Hi Don, Your pictures look exactly right. I’ll post a picture of mine when I next see it.

Rocky, That was quite a post, you going out of town for a week or so or on a world cruise? Throw in thermo gloves and Mucklucks and off to Alaska we go. You did forget the sword for the mideval renosonse fair however. And you call yourself an experienced packer!

Harry

[Alex]

I may not have all this right but here’s my understanding.

I just spoke to Clarke and they have the new ECM installed but it’s not recognizing the accelerator. The ECM they replaced did not show the engine code for my engine, meaning who worked on it last didn’t put it in or notate it or something. So they are trying to get the engine code from another source and i’m to call them back in 30 minutes.

Harry

[Chris]

Harry: I have the same curiousity Tom does. Who did your prepurchase inspection? How extensive was it?

[Harry]

Correction. After looking at my records I found they had it fo 4 weeks.

[Harry]

The individual who did my pre inspection is passive aggressive, chronic and manifested by sullenness. Yes it was ME! You guys couldn’t let it go could you? You just keep pushing and prodding and prodding and pushing until the terrible truth is unveiled. It was “ME”, poor pitiful ME! And I can tell you honestly, it is making me poor and that is pitiful…

Now are you beach sand kickers Happy? You hounded me till I broke, it’s a sad sad day indeed’

Harry

[Tim]

Can’t believe they couldn’t clean that racor. That’s what they are designed for, catching crap. Sounds like that’s the least of the problems now with the ECM. I pet mine every time I pass by the thing. I have my Kubota gen set torn apart right now replacing the water pump and the pumplooks new like the one I’m putting on. I feel your pain. I feel like I have a tent with wheels with mine. Good luck and keep us posted.

PS

Don’t feel like the lone lost stranger as I didn’t have an inspection on mine either.

[Archived]

OK, some good news… It’s not the ECM!

They think it’s one of two things, the “tone wheel” or the “wheel sensors”? They may not get it sorted out yet today but are pretty confident of sometime Monday!

Hey, I may get my coach back, get it home and ease it into its new covered home! Then I can concentrate on a new toad and get out on the road.

Oh, I almost forgot, I’ve got to see if Jeff can see me? I’ll not mention Jon this time, last time he hung up on me!

Lets all think positive!

Harry

[Dick]

I think if we did a survey we would find the actual number of buyers that did a comprehensive inspection would be limited. The good news is a lot of coaches that trade hands are in pretty good shape and don’t exhibit a lot of expensive problems.

I’ll take a little heat from Harry and the seller by stating an ECM problem (if that is what it is) might not have been identified even with a comprehensive inspection. Some electronics end their life or exhibit problems suddenly. It is not like some internal device wears out because nothing inside the ECM or sensor or connector is slowly wearing away because nothing moves. They work, or they don’t.

But I don’t care how honest or careful a seller is in maintaining a coach a detailed inspection is just about the cheapest thing and owner will ever do for a coach. Inspections not only reveal items that might need attention, or things that don’t work, they are also the cheapest education the new owner is going to get. By personally operating every device or system the buyer is learning not only that things work as they are supposed to, the buyer is learning how to work the system. During the inspection / training the buyer should stick with the device or system being checked until he is confident he undertands it and he is sure of how it works. We have complex houses on wheels and before we embark on a trip we really need to get a grasp of the important things because in some cases a lack of knowledge can create issues.

Harry has been pretty good at picking on us in his threads about what he is going through so I am sure he won’t mind if we designate him to advise new potential buyers of the benefits of spending quality time with a potential purchase so the shock to the wallet is a little less, and so the coach can be enjoyed.

At the very least a buyer needs to focus on the expensive stuff, including engine and transmission codes, tire dates, battery dates, and getting a service history.

[Archived]

Harry: We’re all relieved that you’re taking the coach to Jeff Rowe before you hit the road. Very relieved.

[glen]

Wow Dick, so you’ve been telling Jon I’ve been picking on you again? You’ve always been his favorite and we all recognize that! So tell me this Sir Richard of Wisconsin, aka The Big Cheese. What is a Tone Wheel? Yes this is a test and please, no one let him see your paper!

Harry

[Harry]

I worked on DDEC II a few months ago with the same issue. It turned out to be a bad oil pressure sensor. We also changed the water level sensor at that time . I doubt the wheel tone rings have anything to do with the Engine ECM.

Figurng out it was the oil pressure sensor ws tough. It tested okay but I replaced it and the issue went away.

[Brady]

Harry, that is a sophisticated replacement for a piano tuning fork.The quality of diagonesis is directly proportional to the talents of the user. Otherwise it becomes just another vacuuming device to get money from your wallet.

[Harry]

What the hell is a wheel tone ring? ABS related?

[Harry]

Harry

On tow vehicles, Jeep’s can be towed without the need for special switches, disconnects, etc. Air Force One or B&G brake systems seem to work best… on my two Jeep the steering wheel stays “unlocked”.. straight forward and simple to tow.

good luck and a new coach is a learning curve with information overload, as we have all been there.. take a deep breath as will get better!!!

[Brett]

I forget sometimes that you don’t have to have an “Older Coach” to have problems. I also forget that many of the systems are the same or similar. I know the 8V92 is a different animal, but we all still have filters, breakers, tires, batteries, dump stations etc. So much more in common than not!

And thanks for giving Dick the answer, he’d of never gotten it! 🙂

Harry