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HJ
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Who the hell is this Harry guy???????
I thought this web site had standards. How did he get past the admissions committee?
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Ha Ha Jon, I snuck in under the moniker of HJ and then in the dark of night Tom, my good friend and financial resource manager changed it to Harry! This little slight of hand was to both surprise and amaze as it hid my true identity!HJ and Harry, the same guy with the same bus… A 1991 Prevost Beaver Coach Classic Beauty!!! Hey if Jon can have an Elegant Lady, I can have a Classic Beauty! My good close personal friend Tom said it was just fine!
Harry aka HJ 🙂
PS. Hey Jeff, why is my Classic Beauty leaning?
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Harry,
I’m late to this thread, but couldn’t agree more with Jon who told you to get in your bus and run it repeatedly.
We went to the seminar before having or using our bus. We did learn a number of good things to look, or look out for. However, Jon is exactly right that you don’t know the right questions to ask when you haven’t used your bus extensively.
Like many things in life, you learn via OJT, and there’s simply no replacement for that kind of training.
After two years on the road, basically fulltiming in the bus, I’m just getting to the point of understanding all the complicated systems, but I look forward to many more adventures!
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I know this won’t go to Tim’s head because he is a nice guy, but he is the gold standard for how to become a Prevost owner. He asked questions. Lots of them during his search and he obviously paid attention because he did real well with his purchase. He has been relentless in learning and understanding his coach and if it hasn’t already paid dividends it will not only to maintain it properly, but to keep on top of things so it serves him well.
Words can not describe the comfort level we get when we develop an understanding of our coach and its systems, not only in our pleasure using the coach, but in knowing it well enougfh to keep it in the best possible condition with no surprises.
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Hi Tim and thanks for your comments…
I could not agree with you more and is something Jon and others have said to me even before buying my coach in May. As soon as I get my coach back from Jeff at ETLC I’ll be out doing those very things. And I know what you mean about just getting to a comfort factor after two years of full timing. You can’t sit in the drivers seat and not have one of your first thoughts being “Oh My”! Followed by and incredible smile of “wow and it’s mine”!
The one thing that gives me great delight is you guys! Knowing that I have a place to come to ask questions and get competent answers from you guys who have “been there – done that”!
Jon has made the recommendation I reach out to other Beaver Coach owners and I plan to do that right after the Maintenance Seminar. Jim Lane no longer has a Beaver Coach but man oh man does he know a lot about from previous ownership! He has amassing a ton of information of previous Beaver Coach owners.
Folks who own Liberty and Marathon coaches and others who are still in business have that as an advantage for sure. And we all know each converter builds differently. So what we Beaver Coach owners know and can share would be a big deal.
I teas Jon all the time here on the forum and one reason for that is he handles well. But the help Jon has been to me has been incredible and could not ask for a better mentor. And Jon doesn’t just give you a 20 second cursory response. You get a full five minute dissertation, not to preach but to help you understand. For those having email conversations with Jon also know “if you don’t want to know how he feels, don’t ask him” and I frankly love that! Sorry to say nice things about you Jon but your a good guy!!! Sorry to let the cat out of the bag, but that’s the truth!
Harry
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Where is Harry, and what have you done with him?
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Jon: I’ve updated my post with some smiley faces to everyone should be able to see my comments were tongue in cheek. Can I can out of my room? Is my time out over?
Rudy: There is a song that goes something like … “If I had a million dollars, I’d buy you a [fill in the blank]”. Let me paraphrase …
“If I had a million dollars, I’d buy Rudy a Prevost”
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OK, now go out and play Dick, and be a good boy.
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You’re right on Harry about talking with other Beaver owners as well. Jon and the rest of the gang are unbelievable when you talk Prevost, but understandably, when I ask Marathon specific questions, it’s usually the Marathon guys who answer. But many items certainly cross over to other converters, like Cruisairs, toilets, Webasto, etc.
BTW, I’d have to live 40 more years to approach Jon’s expertise, and even then, I don’t have a bus barn to even change oil/lube my bus.
It is amazing Jon has so much experience, despite the fact he keeps telling us he’s 10-years younger than Tom, and Tom’s the epitome of the fountain of youth 🙂
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Tom is so old he doesn’t buy green bananas any more. He keeps wanting a bigger share of the dues money for his 401-K. He needs it because his social security expired.
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Tim made a good point about advice. We all share the Prevost chassis but there are a lot of variation and we have to always try to keep the specific year and model in mind when we ask or read about them.
There have been some major variations and what may seem like an easy question may not be so easy when we consider we have gone from an 8V92 engine to a Series 60 engine to the current Volvo. We went from a single model, the 40 foot XL called the Le Mirage to an H3, then 45 foot coaches were added and somewhere after that the solid axle front suspension went to an independent front suspension (IFS).
Then in 2000 the XLII was introduced and shortly after that slides were added. Around the late nineties, early 2000 the demand for slides was strong so coaches were modified to have slides made by a number of manufacturers so all slides were not made by Prevost. As emissions standards tightened controls and devices were added and we started using terms such as EGR and CAC. Then came the multiplex chassis. Then DEF.
That is a very short summary of how we need to start making our signature line specific with respect to the coach, type, model year and converter. Without that information answers and comments may not make sense.
Then we further make answering questions and interpreting comments even more difficult by trying to answer questions concerning the conversion. That is where we have to understand a Liberty or Millennium guy might have some general knowledge but to get specific when answering a question from a Marathon owner really needs a Marathon owner. Those seeking asnwers are cautioned to be very careful before accepting advice from owners of other conversions. There is no way a Vantare owner should accept an asnwer about his electrical system from a Liberty owner without qualifying the answer. The systems are completely different although both have wires, batteries and inverters.
Those of us who are not familiar with multiplex systems need to be very careful about trying to help someone who has such a system because a lot of the items we see in abundance such as breakers, relays and lots of wires just are not there on a multiplex coach and if we start offering suggestions about changing to a new style headlight or adding marker lights we may be getting the owner in trouble when he realizes he has to reprogram his multiplex coach because something as simple as changing the loads will create error messages.
So Jake’s point about where good advice is going to come from is very important and accurate.
However, everyone should keep in mind that we just make up most of the answers on here so if accuracy is that important maybe this is not the place to be.
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Did you guys notice the middle finger?
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That happened to me once Tom… I gave a large group of people the Piece Sign and they returned half of it!BTW that picture posted by Fred “Triple Foxtrot” of my coach leaning… That was an airbag adjustment done ETLC for ease of getting in and out right? I’ve never seen the coach lean like that before, please tell me it was airbag induced!!! It’s a bad look for my baby especially after new airbags.
Harry
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Ya know,
Jon & I have a side-agreement that I feel I can now make public.
Jon agreed that if I pay extra annual dues, Jon agreed to put me in his Will, specifically the rights to use his bus barn for future preventive maintenance in perpetuity! (I know Tom, big word 🙂
I can’t wait to get under my own bus and change my own oil & lub the zerks … I’m just hoping Jon keeps the cliff notes on how to perform all this annual maintenance.
Jon, can you put those notes up on the side of your bus barn or, make a Utube video and post on the forum …
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Ok, Ok, OK! I’ll change my signature line
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