Andy
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Jon,
You are correct. There is an accumulator tank in the system. I don’t recall a check valve, but I’ll have another look today. I didn’t make it clear in my first post, but this is a new problem. When I first acquired the coach I didn’t notice the long recovery. My thought is the pump is original and needs overhauled, or I have an air problem/accumulator tank issue.
Is it wise to keep the Groco setup, or would you consider changing the system to something like a Shurflo pump? I’m just not familiar or educated yet.
Tim Hardage
1996 Prevost Vogue XL40
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Tom has to make room in his garage. He’ll need the extra space so he can put the slides out on his next (last) bus.
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I am not familiar with how Vogue set up the water system, but typically when the Groco pump was used on the Liberty conversions an accumulator tank was part of the system. A properly charged accumulator tank will deliver a certain volume of water before the water system pressure drops to the pump cut-in pressure. If the accumulator tank has a large volume it could deliver a gallon or more before that point.
When the pump does kick in it will replace that amount of water, plus continue to deliver whatever volume of water is needed to complete the task, such as a toilet flush.
If the accumulator tank does not have a sufficient air charge the pump will short cycle and kick on and off almost immediately with any water use. I consider the system healthy if the water flows for a while before the pump turns on, and then takes a while for the pump to recharge it. The only reservation or concern I would have is if Vogue installed any potential line restriction immediately downstream from the pump, such as a check valve, but any such restriction would more likely cause the pump to do some starts and stops as the accumulator tank is recharged with water.
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I am not aware of any Prevost conversion CC did. I do know they did a lot of MCI and earlier GM coaches.
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Oh Grizz…
You didn’t get the memo I see.
Jon and Tom are paying each and every coach that comes $500 (it’s coming out of our dues).
See ya there!
Mark
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Andy,
We were in your shoes just about a 2 years ago (deciding between a Newell or Prevost).
We bought our first motorhome in April of 2007 (2008 Monaco Dynasty- ordered from factory). I read about motorhomes for 7 yrs. before we took the plunge but we rented once per year for about 10 days each yr. in 2004, 2005 and 2006 to get a feel if we liked the motorhome lifestyle.
Fast forward to the fall of 2013, I saw an ad for a Outlaw H3-45 that looked interesting with a lower purchase price than I expected. It caught my eye as the price seemed reasonable. That’s when my search for a converter started as I really knew nothing about the differences. I joined PC and started asking questions and making comparisons. The fine folks here will help you spend your money with no problem. LOL!
As I dug deeper, I realized that the Outlaw was a ‘entry level’ Prevost conversion coach which is perfectly fine. We decided to go all the way up to Liberty as they have been in the conversion business the longest. The top three or four converters are all very good but the Liberty just ‘spoke’ to me. I like the one tank holding sytem. I like the Lithium Ion technology, etc.
All of the converters do things a little different so you need to read about them to see what YOU like. Marathon puts the generator radiator in the front behind the grill, Millennuim puts it on the roof and Liberty puts it in a side compartment with a grill in the bottom for air flow (seemed to be the cleanest set-up to me).
Good luck,
Mark
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Welcome, Andy, and congratulations on your freedom from a steady job.
I, too, am a relative newcomer to this site, having lurked for a long time.
Many of the posters on this board are quite knowledgeable about Prevost in particular and buses in general; if you’re set on a Prevost you’ve come to the right place.
As for your questions, I’ll defer to those with more experience with conversions, as I am more of a home builder.
Happy safe travels.
Ted.