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XL versus XLII
I kinda asked this question awhile ago, but will readdress. As I understand the XL has single pane windows and a different front endas two of the biggest differences, side from the rivets.
For those that have had both, if living fulltime in the bus, are the single pane windows killers as far as heat and cold compared to the double pane.
IS the frontend difference a big deal or extreemely noticeable? i would hate toget a worse ride than my Eagle, because it rides pretty nice.
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Windows make some diff for heat/cold/noise…not a deal brkr. XL’s from shell yr ’95 up IFS as are all XLII’s. Geo.
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Another issue with double pane windows is the noise reduction you get. In our house, the road noise from a major artery a few blocks over used to wake us up in the morning. Once we installed double pane windows, we could hardly hear it. Same thing going from the Affinity with single pane to this coach–significant reduction in outside noise.
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Ok, I didn’t realize the 2000 XL had IFS the same as the XLII.
Thanks for that info. I love the looks of the riveted coaches, but also like double pane windows for all reasons mentioned. -
Brett,
For where you and I are located the windows can be very important to keep out the heat. I would hate to give up the benefits of my double pane windows and agree with the previous posts reference to their benefits, but the windshield on XLII’s lets in more heat/cold than an XL. I haven’t tried it yet but I recently read about a 3M window film product which is clear, but extremely efficient at keeping the heat out and legal for windshield installation. I am definitely going to try it on my drivers toll window and the door window, both are single pane and hot at certain times.
Many people would say the vintage XL you are looking at is about the perfect Prevost . Having owned an XLII it is still my preference but I would definitely buy the right XL. -
I defy anyone to be able to tell the difference in ride and handling between a solid axle or IFS coach, with the exception of the turn radius being sharper on an IFS.
I had about 300,000 miles when I drove an IFS coach for the first time. It was not a trip around the block, but a 200 mile trip so I had plenty of opportunity to evaluate the differences. To my rather unsophisticated sense of things the brand new coach with IFS drove, rode, and handled just like my 200,000 mile solid axle coach.
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Brett
For an XL to have IFS, the first one was T-5873 “T” being 1995 shell
model year, 5873 is sequential. -
I am living in an XL in the Long Island winter right now. I have put bubble wrap on the inside of the side windows (windshield and “cockpit sides” uncovered) as an extra layer of insulation. The bubble wrap is not visible from the inside (shades drawn) or outside (tinting). The bubble wrap has made a notable difference and I find the bus quite comfortable down into the teens in temp.
I have not lived in it in the summer yet.
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Having owned both a solid axle and IFS XL and put about 400K on the pair, I agree 100% with Jon’s comments about ride. I went to IFS on my 45′ so I had the same turning radius as my 40′. As a side note, maintenance is MUCH less on the solid axle.
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Speaking about the single pane windows only, when we purchased our coach it the the Hunter Douglas sheer type blinds in the front of the coach with the single pane windows. This past summer I bought new Hunter Douglas double sided blinds, the same type used in the newer Marathon’s with the double pane windows, and it has made a huge difference in the ability to keep the coach cooler or warmer, depending on the season, not to mention the added benefit of makeing the front of the coach pitch black at night, due to these blinds being black out blinds.
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