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Winter Ski Trip To Tiger Run
Posted by Bill on January 3, 2016 at 10:23 pmHey Guys,
Just got back from a ski trip to Winter Park CO and we are planning ahead for next year and thinking about taking the bus to Tiger Run for Christmas Week. I have had the bus in cold weather before but not that cold. It was -10 to -15 this past week and that is crazy cold..
Anyone done it with a Marathon? Am I crazy to consider it?
Biggest concerns is keeping on top of the marathon air and the water which will become ice at those temps quickly.
If the weather turned bad I just would wait it out and allow time in the schedule for that.
Thanks Bill
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With the Royale I used to own had done -20. Just keep the heat on. One concern is the location of the dump valves. I have seen a few hanging out in the cold. The Royale had them in the heated water bay. Arrive with empty holding tanks . Would no try to dump in really cold temps. Before going to cold make sure the air system is as dry as you can get the system.
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Relax, you’ll be fine. Your coach has
double pane windows, and two forms of heat. Arrive with full water tank, and only use garden hose to refill, then put it away. . If you’re equipped with Marathons Canadian heat package you’ll be more than fine. Just don’t shoot your sewer hose out.. If you have to dump, run as much hot water thru it to give it thawed flexibility while retracting. Or wait until you get to Denver and dump at Dakota Ridge RV Park just off I-70 -
Bill,
We have been in sustained temps below minus 20F, with overnight lows down to minus 26.
Keep the water tank as full as possible because it is a huge heat sink and help prevent freezing in the water bay. Make sure the water bay heaters are working.
As Jim said, fill and dump as necessary, but then put everything away. The worst part of cold temps is the windshield is single pane, and when driving in sub zero temps the cold air spilling down from the windshield overcomes the coach heating systems. As soon as you stop driving and stop the wind chill effect you can get warm again, but while driving get a blanket to cover your knees up front.
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Caveat: Having to leave Palm Springs ( Feb 20,2015) suddenly after arriving three days prior to the phone call my mother had died, we spent 5 weeks in NE Arctic Ohio in our most recently previous coach, the 1992 Beaver XL 40. That Prevost conversion had only the Webasto for heating everything-inside and under belly. Genset and Webasto ran solid, for those 5 weeks, with only brief quiet to check genset fluids. That bus had 7 Webasto heat convectors. Even at -13 degrees, we had to be care with how high we set the thermostat, because coach interior could easily be “summer in Palm Springs” quite easily. Inotherwards, interior became tooooo warm. So, Breck” in winter is spectacular. Call Tiger Run ahead so they can scoop the snow off your site. We were last ther in 2001, with our Country Coach XL45 two slide-no issues at -14.
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Bill, if you don’t already have them, I strongly suggest that you get and carry a set of the cable-type tire chains just in case. In fact, anyone travelling where snow accumulation is possible would be advised to carry them. They are not expensive and don’t take up much space. Chains are easier to install on a bus than on a car. Just be sure to put them on the outer drive tires, not the tag as I saw a “pro” driver do once. Safe travels.
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Bill, something a bit easier to handle and C-Dot (Colorado Department of Transportation) approved, is the “Auto Sock. You tube search it
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Jim, do those socks really work? Have you tried them? I’m very interested to know if anyone has experience with them
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Bryan,
No, we haven’t yet needed to chain up yet. Our newest coach came with new container with Auto Sox. We have carried cable chains for years
This year we were planning on installing snow tread tires on our 1992 Prevost Beaver XL 40 but we sold it in September. Our new coach we bought, a 2000 XL 40 Marathon received the drive tires I desired. They are the Michelin XDN2 Grip 2’s.
Checking with several charter companies in town I was curious what snow treads they were using.
The XDN 2 was their choice,. They are getting mileage out of them we drive in about 5-6 years. So they’ll be aging out when we need to buy new ones. ,
Years ago, with our bus company in the Yellowstone National Park area, we routinely installed heavy link chains on our busses, especially going over to Jackson Hole away from Idaho, via Teton Pass . I had it down to about twenty minutes
From the sounds of next weeks weather forecast, we maybe driving in snow. Will let you know Bryan what we use. -
I have used the XDN2 grips they are great , on a lot of XL and XLll coaches the XDN2 grips will rub on the shock bolt they do not hit on the H-3 , Jim did you check the clearance , with the weight on the tires and sitting on the ground ,it does not touch much just on the very bottom of the tread not on the side wall just the lug, just check them to be sure the space also is very little in between the duals it is very close
The XDN2 grips have a bigger foot print on the ground than the X energy that’s what makes then hit the shock bolt
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We used the XDN’s on our trucks and they were great! It was much better than any other tire we used for traction and still had good life.
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Already have 11,000 miles on the XDN’s. We were all over the bus to be sure nothing touches that’s not supposed to touch. The Grip2’s don’t taper in like XZA-2’s, and we were rightly concerned about the tire touch ing something . We have 95 psi in the tires and even with the bus on its haunches with airbags deflated, nothing touches the tires including the Marathon fenders. So we ve been good to go.
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On some of the coaches the XDN grips will hit the shock bolt not on all , its where prevost put the shock mount glad yours is good I owned two coaches that they would touch the shock bolt
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Had Jeff inspect underside while in air last October. Only issue was dog bone bushings.
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