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  • Where is the fuel weight

    Posted by AL on September 18, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Weigh the coach at Flying J then take on 148 gallons of fuel and re-weigh. It was sort of a slow traffic day at Flying J .

    As the scale weight ticket shows an increase in steer axle of 520 lbs. and the drive and tag also shows increase equal weight.. The position of the fuel tank was engineered correctly.

    The Marathon has a 18,000 lb. front axle and this fuel weight has pushed this to the max. Diesel fuel weight at 7 lbs per gal shows a heavy weight bus. I should add the fresh water tank was full.

    That fresh water weight would be 8 lbs. per gal for 1440 lbs. Both gray and black empty. I’ve heard many owners talk of only carrying 1/2 tank of water and is a saving of hauling 700 lbs down the highway.

    Still to bring on board co-pilot ,food, beer, probably not a good idea to post co-pilot weight and Maddie is a heavy weight at 18 lbs .

    Cost to do this nonsense was $9.50

    Archived replied 12 years ago 10 Members · 16 Replies
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  • AL

    Member
    September 18, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Al,

    I always split the drive/tag on the scale so I have 3 weights. No big deal, but it’s nice to know what each axle is weighing.

    Just keep the beer in the bedroom and off the steer!!!

  • Larry

    Member
    September 18, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Tom,

    That’s a good idea, next time.

  • Gerald

    Member
    September 18, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Al,

    What are you running 315s on the steer? I was thinking they are rated at 9,000 +/-

  • Don

    Member
    September 18, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Dale,

    The front steers are Michelins 365’s @ 105 psi.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 19, 2012 at 12:52 am

    We are now running about 85 gallons of water, and have cut back on hauling that around considerably. We also only carry about 10-15 gallons of diesel in our aux. fuel tank which normally holds about 70 gallons.

    The big trailer was put up and stored, and we now have one about half the size of the old enclosed model. That was almost a 50% reduction in weight alone.

    This has cut down on some of the weight, it isn’t a whole lot, but it is something.

    BCO

  • Archived

    Member
    September 19, 2012 at 10:25 am

    That is interesting. I toyed with not filling mine up with diesel before weighing but I had no way of knowing how many gallons I lacked without doing it twice as you did.

    I had mine weighed this summer by one of the RV weighing companies. They weighed at every tire position. My holding tanks were empty, fresh water full and diesel full.

    Keep in mind we carry nearly everything we own and that includes clothes and “stuff” for three people and a complete PA system and instruments.

    My wife and daughter were inside the bus and I was not. No sense throwing the whole thing off…

    Front Axle – 15150

    Drive – 22050

    Tag – 12350

    They weighed it a second time with the 24′ double stack attached. The bus was then 1350 lbs heavier distributed between the drive and tag. They said that difference is the tounge weight. The trailer was 16400 and it was loaded a little heavy on its front axle. I have since shifted the load back toward the third axle.

    I have tried to be real careful Not to load the front and keep everyting over the axles in the trailer so I was pretty pleased with a tounge weight of 1350.

    DKO

  • Archived

    Member
    September 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    With everything else unchanged, I weighed my Marathon H3-45 before and after adding 164 gallons of fuel.

    The added weight was distributed as follows.

    Steer axle. 22%

    Drive axle 60%

    Tag axle 18%

    I was careful to position the drive and tag axles on separate scale sections.

  • jack

    Member
    September 21, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Interesting Al, I’ve never seen an 18,000 lb steer axle on a 2000 year coach. I didn’t think Prevost developed the 18K axle until the 2003/2004 chassis year. Good for you!

    Here’s mine, full fuel and fresh water, empty grey and black, packed to go, two on board, (factory 365’s tag and steer, 18K steer axle, two slides). Mine costs ten bucks; I got ripped!:

  • Bernie

    Member
    September 21, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Better check that weight sticker big Al, mine is an 02 and is 17,200 on the steer.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 21, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    You boy’s must be in the sauce, it’s late back east.

    Look at the date on the thread, he’s weighing his XLII.

    Later,

    bv

  • Dick

    Member
    September 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm

    Yep….that Calif. guy is pretty sharp. When you change your coach or add / subtract the sign message all your postings are updated. Coach weight ticket was for 2005 XLII.

    I’ll weigh this 2000 “H” when I return to KC. David, where is your gen mounted ? Ours in 1st bay D-side.

    I’am just west of Boise tonight driving direct to OKC.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 22, 2014 at 6:35 am

    Al, thanks for updating your tag line as i know have three weight tags for our coach! The two you posted here and the one you and I did when we bought our wonderful XLII from two of the nicest folks we have ever met!

  • Archived

    Member
    September 22, 2014 at 6:59 am

    My mistake for assuming the signature with the named coach was actually the coach discussed.

    in any case, the front axle on a 2000 H is rated at 16500 lbs. That’s coach model year, not converter model year.

    BTW, the cost to weigh at Flying J is now $10.50.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 22, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Big Al,

    How do you know if you have the right tire pressures if you haven’t weighed the coach?

  • Clifford

    Member
    September 22, 2014 at 8:12 am

    You can’t get past that Bernie on the left coast…

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