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Waterless Coolant
I was watching an episode on Wheeler Dealers where Ed used some waterless coolant with significant advantages over water/glycol based coolants. I Googled waterless coolants and came up with only one made by Evans. This seems to be a no brainer but has anyone had experience with it in a Detroit Diesel in a Prevost?
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When I looked at the product I could not find any ASTM testing or any other certifications.
Having a 92 series Detroit, coolant is always a concern so I use the Peak Final Charge Global that is phosphate, silicate, nitrite and borate free and meets the Detroit spec.
I did not find the ingredients in Evans. I have friends that use it in their Rock Crawlers but no one I know using it in any coaches.
The cost is crazy, they say 15 gallons for series 60 but with Wabasto it is more like 24 gallons. 24 X $32 = $768. And that is without the new thermostat, a refractometer and system cleaner, another $300. So for a grand not including labor you can take a chance.
I could not find any info on series 92 Detroits so we did not persue. Also lack of certifications made me leary.
Maybe someone else has had experience with it. The idea of one time and forget it is enticing though.
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I may be overcautious but I will not use any coolant that does not meet the spec called for by Detroit Diesel.
The downside is very costly, so why take the risk?
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I appreciate the input. Lack of certification on Evan’s Waterless Coolant would certainly be a problem especially when trying to use in an expensive Prevost. I have not been able to determine whether or not certifications for this product actually exist. I have seen several websites, mostly forums, where others who have tried it swear by it.
Apparently the cost and lack of known certifications haven’t hindered them. Certainly the benefits outweigh any negatives for them. However, most are talking about using it is small vehicles like motorcycles, or ATVs. Not exactly apples to apples. Aside from a higher cost some have said it won’t dissipate heat as well as a 50 /50 solution of water and antifreeze. But, the difference of dissipative ability appears to be only small. Anyone have any input on this or certifications? Apparently this product has been around quite a few years. The fact that manufacturers have not swithched to it makes me wonder why? Another reason to keep inquiring.
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Just the fact manufacturers have not found it to meet their spec or used the product would be sufficient for me to walk away from this issue.
Turning an engine into a paperweight because of a coolant that did not protect the engine like the products certified to meet the spec is the potential outcome. This is a clear case of a risk versus reward situation, and the risk is significant compared to any possible reward. Why re-invent the wheel?
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Of course if we find it on the internet it has to be true!
I’m in with Jon, why take the risk.
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Just thought I would mention what I have heard on the Evans coolant as I am searching coolant threads on the ol’ PC tonight.
If any of you listen to Kevin Rutherford on XM, he swears by the Evans and he also thinks the Series 60 is pretty much the best engine ever made and LOTS of owner operators are running Evans in a Series 60. The one caution is getting ALL of the old stuff out, something I would be careful about, I guess some shops are good at it with the right equipment, others not so much.
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I sure hope in your study about things of this nature you take advantage of all the information Detroit Diesel has on line regarding approved fluids for their engines.
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