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Curious myself what folks do in the states that aren’t friendly with gun owners. Down here in Texas with My Concealed Permit, and the way the cartels are infiltrating this state, I carry mine in my pocket. Stay within states that are gun friendly. just to be sure.

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This link seems legit and may answer the question:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf

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transporting, you are covered by federal law. It’s when you stop or your destination is in an unfriendly 2nd amendment state that you need to worry about. Know what the laws are for those states you start in, layover in or stop in.

[Gerald]

Good advice Charles, Sad but true.

[Tom]

I know for sure that D.C. and New York State are the worse. You can get arrested in D.C. just for having an empty spent cartridge in your vehicle. It is pure releif to have a 40 caliper on my hip when driving on some of the remote parts of the Country where you are truely alone and on your own. Parking Late at night in a remote area or driving after dark noone is going to assist you and carrying especially with a conceiled permit is the best. I am not sure about having firearms in the Coach while parked, will check out the book that was recommended but still looking for first hand experience with Coaches. Michael

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Thank you for your posting; excellent information. As I have started to go over it my eyes begin to glaze over as I read all the restrictions and the references to permits and licenses. If you are a traveler and drop anchor for a night or two in a State how in the world do you find and secure a firearm permit for their State for those two days. Yeks, Makes me want to put a sign up on the Coach, “unarmed” mug me.

Thanks again for the posting I will continue to read it; Michael

[Larry & Diane]

We were never armed because when we lived in NY state having a weapon meant you had to jump through a lot of hoops just to have the right to own one. But on a trip from NY state to a rally in WY Di had a guy in a rest area get well within her comfort zone while walking the dog. I watched from the coach and if he had threatened her my weapon would have been a butter knife.

A few minutes after she got back in the coach and while we were having coffee we watched in awe as the cops handcuffed the guy, took a large knife from him, and started searching his car. To say this was our wakeup call would be an understatement.

At the rally which had well over 100 other Prevost owners we found that the other owners thought we were nuts for traveling in the coach unarmed. Then we had to confront the issue of whether we could bring ourselves to use a gun if we felt threatened. On a trip through the Redwoods we had a guy in a pickup truck threaten us with his truck.He was clearly a whacko and it was at that moment we both realized we did have the ability to pull the trigger, removing any hesitation we had to have a weapon in the coach.

I completely understand there are laws regarding possession of weapons. NY state even posts signs at their borders telling you if you have a weapon you are breaking the law unless you have the required NY permits.

We don’t care. I am not concerned about the laws. I am concerned about our safety because we now know the fact that we drive a Prevost makes us a target for some of society’s bad people. Our best defense if we feel threatened is to start the coach and drive away. Unless the bad guy uses another bus or a semi to prevent us from moving I will have no hesitation to push anything the bad guy is driving out of my way. I can always repair the bus.

But if someone ever manages to enter the coach, something unlikely to happen quickly because we keep the door locked, I hope we will be able to defend ourselves. I won’t post here what weapon(s) we might have on board, but we are no longer the unarmed newbies we once were.

It is a sad statement that we find it comforting to be breaking laws in almost every state we drive through, but at the next rally (not on this forum) if you ask other coach owners if they are armed you will find an extremely high precentage is armed.

[glen]

Intrusion
into our bus will cause lead poisoning..

Most
states are shotgun friendly, so lacking law enforcement credentials
or a carry permit, a shotgun is a good way to go. Besides, hearing
that pump slide action has deterred many crimes.

[Roger]

Yeah Tom, the world is getting rougher all the time and criminals don’t adhere to any laws that pertain to us . I carry a sidearm but the old sawed off shotgun is always hidden within reach inside coach. I’m not afraid of any man but there comes a time where you might have to defend your loved ones or other innocents and your meat muffins (fists) won’t be enough. Even though i know how to use them having gone to state (Golden Gloves) as a amature boxer back in the late 60’s and early 70’s. At 61 getting to old for that nonsense. If I had to defend my wife would do it in a New York minute with no recourse.

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WOW! My wife and I have had this discussion a number of times not really agreeing on the “right” course of action. But after reading this post – twice, I don’t think there is much of a decision any longer. Especially since while travelling we do occasionally stop at rest areas not just truck stops and I’m sure danger can be lurking anywhere.

We now intend to not only get armed but get extensively trained on how to safely and properly handle the gun and be prepared to use it should the need ever arise. I’ve read in a stressful situation, you will only be half as good as your best day on the range so we intend to get some serious training and lots of range practice.

I never thought about the fact that owning a Prevost would make us a target but it certainly makes sense. We definitely do not carry much cash in the coach and if somebody wants what I have in it they just have to ask. But harming or taking liberties with my wife or family is totally another matter and I guess I would rather be prepared than be sorry.

[Chas]

Be careful taking any kind of firearm into Canada. Here are a couple of stories:

1. A good friend had 48 foot Ocean Alexander yacht that he took into eastern Lake Huron and docked for customs. The customs officer asked he had any firearms on board. My friend said, “no”. He’d forgotten that he had put a pistol on board a few weeks earlier. The officer came out of the boat with the gun in hand. My friend was IMMEDIATELY handcuffed, laid down on the deck, and hauled off to jail where he spent three days; this is like ANY of us spending three days in jail. Being from Chicago he didn’t know any Canadian attorneys. I was working in NYC at the time and got a great referral from one of the attorneys at our company for good Canadian counsel. I think it cost my friend about $5,000 and two or three trips to Canadian court. He is in the Canadian computer for life. He didn’t get the pistol back.

2. From the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel online: http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/o-canada-wisconsin-couples-visit-turns-scary-b99372547z1-279499492.html

3. My nephew is in the Air Force. He was moving from Las Vegas (Nellis AFB) to the AFB at Fairbanks using his Chevrolet 1/2 ton pickup and 24′ enclosed trailer. His uncle is a licensed federal fire arms dealers and had shipped my nephews guns to another licensed federal fire arms dealer in Fairbanks. When nephew got to the Canadian border he was asked, “Do you have any firearms?” My nephew said, “Yes, they are being shipped from a licensed US federal firearms dealer to another licensed dealer in Fairbanks.” Big mistake. He was immediately separated from the truck and trailer. He watched as Canadian customs unloaded the truck and trailer and searched inside everywhere while nephew tried to make contact with his uncle and the Fairbanks dealer. Finally the Fairbanks dealer was found and he was able to convince Canadian customs that the guns were in his posession in Fairbanks.

Beware.

[Peter]

Transporting a shotgun through Canada in the bus was a non event. Had the form filled out before I got to the border, paid the 250 bucks and away we went. No inspection or any questions. Of course the handguns were left at home…

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Basic firearm training is great for anyone wanting to own and handle a handgun. Most basic firearm training covers hand gun safety with a couple hours of range time. Continued training or at least practice should always be encouraged. Getting more advanced training, which should include more then just standing at a bench and shooting down the range is best. Tactical training including low light, tight quarters, and on the move simulation is helpful. However, one thing you should also include is any class, training, or reading up on laws, responsibilities and liabilities is something overlooked, but very important.

Also look into specific liability insurance as well as coverage for attorney representation if needed.

Some of the best training I received was during the academy. However, the most useful training I had was from an ex-marin/ex-sheriff deputy who covered the legal issues and my legal rights while carrying and in the event of using a firearm in civilian life. Also, he provided some insight into dealing with transporting/carrying when it came to interaction with law enforcement. Was well worth the time and money (and was a very insightful contrast compared to what we covered in the academy).

[Rick]

We definitely want to get handgun training and lots of practice rounds in. I’ve read about a place in Las Vegas area called front Sight, that does all kinds of firearms training from handguns to semi-automatic weapons. Apparently its the biggest facility like this which specializes in training everyone from those who have never fired a gun to ex-cops, military etc. and supposedly one of the best at it.

Has anyone else had any experience with this facility and is it really that good?

[orren]

that would be a great seminar…..Firearms transportation or Firearm Safety Course