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  • Tire Rotation Question

    Posted by Archived on February 19, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    I put 4 new tires on the steer and drive axel, in August of 2014. They only have 11,000 miles on them. Toyo M170.

    My drive tires have aged out so it is time to replace them. Should I move the tag and steer to the drive and then put the new tires there. Or just put new tires on the drive?

    In the interest of full disclosure, I did not have the valve stems replaced in August of 14. One of my tag stems leakes (not the valve core) so I plan to have the stems replaced in all positions.

    What stems do I need to specify if both running equal and plan to get the pressure pro in the near future?

    DON replied 9 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Archived

    Member
    February 19, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    I would put the tag and steer on the drive, then get new tires to replace the tag and steer. That creates additional break down for two going on the drive due to inner steel wheels, but sounds like you have to break one down anyways because of the leak.

  • Archived

    Member
    February 20, 2017 at 5:40 am

    I agree with Tom, except I think you might have all aluminum wheels so you do not have to breakdown because of that, but you are either going to break down the tires and wheels anyway unless you are prepared to do a lot of wheel polishing.

    Giving some bad news is a service I provide.

  • Cody

    Member
    February 20, 2017 at 6:09 am

    I have aluminum inner rims but I’m not up to polishing. They all have to broken down for new stems.

    any stem recommendations?

  • Peter

    Member
    February 20, 2017 at 6:24 am

    I think your stem options are going to be influenced by how you check and fill your tires and if you have a TPMS. I think your stems are about 4 to 5″ and have a 90 degree bend. I would stick with them because they work well, except if you use a TPMS the outer drives need to be turned and a shorter stem might be best in that application.

  • Archived

    Member
    February 20, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    Thanks

  • Archived

    Member
    March 18, 2017 at 6:56 am

    Final question, my outside dual currently has approximately 3 inch 90 degree long stem which is turned back to the inside. It ends inside one of the rim holes. I dont think I can get a pressure pro sensor on the end with this orientation.

    What length stem and orientation should be used for the outside duals?

    (All the other tires have the same stem but pointed towards the outside and should be ok for sensor installation.)

  • Rudy

    Member
    March 18, 2017 at 7:01 am

    The orientation of the valve stem has to be changed so you can install a Pressure Pro sensor, but also so you can get the tire chuck on the stem to check pressures and fill the tire with air. On the drive axle the orientation is influenced by the hub which can interfere with access to the stem for filling.

    On another thread I discussed the importance of matching tire sizes on the drive axle. I would have given no thought to where the tag and steer tires went, but now I know you have to carefully measure them and put them on the axle so the pairs are as close to the same diameter as possible.

  • Ronald

    Member
    March 18, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Thanks Jon, just read the tire diameter post. i’ll pull a rope around the circumfrence to make sure the current steer and tag match. I can’t see how they wont as they onky have 11k miles on them.

  • Archived

    Member
    March 19, 2017 at 5:29 am

    Just for clarification the diameter that is critical is the rolling diameter.

    If the set of tires are the same brand and size the easy way is to put a level across them when they sit on the floor and have the same inflation pressure. If they are two different brands or models within a brand deeper digging is required and I believe all manufacturers of truck tires provide the rolling diameter.

    With our low mileage usage wear is not as big an issue as it is with truckers or commercial bus fleets looking to get long mileage from a tire.

  • DON

    Member
    March 19, 2017 at 6:59 am

    Same brand, model and size tire, same mileage. I’ll give the level a try.

  • Kurt

    Member
    March 19, 2017 at 9:45 am

    I seriously doubt you have a problem, especially if you put tires from the same axle on the same side. Tags wear in strange ways because they are too lightly loaded, but the drive does straighten our the unusual wear pattern over time. We did some forensics on tag or lightly loaded tires and they do show strange wear.

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