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Ten Year Old Coaches
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Dean,
Do not go by what you are told. Ask to see the By-Laws, Corp filings and CCR’s for the Resort. It is in fact in the “rules”. If someone there chooses not to enforce the rules and you show up and the next person chooses to enforce the rules, where does that leave you?
The CCR’s and By-Laws can only be changed by a vote of the property owners with usually a huge majority. The % changes by state, but in NC it can be anywhere from 67% to 80% depending on the issue.
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Cory,
If you are planning a rally at Hearthside make sure you get a waiver of the 10 year rule in writing. We did everything we could except stand on our head and spit dimes to get that provision waived for a PC rally and they refused. That meant the rally was only available to owners of coaches 10 years old or less. They were at the time immovable and we had to cancel the rally.
That meant rivet coaches and H coaches with 4 windshields would be turned away. The ironic part was that we knew of site owners at Hearthside that owned coaches that did not meet their own rules regarding age. Hearthside is inconsistent in their enforcement. But they are not the only resort that enforces the 10 year rule despite having owners whose coaches are outside the allowable limits.
Don’t waste much time or money on this until you learn if you can get that 10 year waiver. Let us know. You seem confident you will be able to do something we could not do..
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I’ve never visited this resort and have only heard positive things about this property.
Based on reading this thread and making a few assumptions, my takeaway is the property owners go through some sort of HOA approval prior to purchase and the make/model/year/condition of the coach is part of the process as is (most likely) credit and background checks. I’ll add that an approval process for prospective purchasers is not unsual with some real estate/country club developments as is maintaining a home to a specific standard throughout ownership. If I’m reading this correctly, the property owners’ coach is most likely grandfathered beyond the ten year rule, but it’s likely conditions apply.
From what I’ve read in this thread, users that are renting spaces must adhere to the governing documents, but with most situations, there’s most likely provisions where execptions may be granted by a board, the property owner or governing body.
In Florida, there’s no shortage of “private” country and golf clubs that have similar rules for its owners.
Is this a fair assesment?
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The resort that is the subject of this discussion has members / owners who themselves own coaches older than ten years of age. This issue, strangely enough must be a recurring issue for them and their owner association rules. They obviously have an exemption for owners.
There are many other great places…
Pres
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A couple of weeks ago I called Hearthside for a reservation in the fall and told them our coach is an ’06. I said I had heard about their “10 year old” policy. I was asked to send a picture before they handled the reservation and as long the appearence was acceptable I would get a reservation. I spoke to Jason.
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How very nice of them to consider the poor folks who are forced to drive coaches that don’t meet their standards.
I will stop right now because the rest of what I want to say about their f*****g policy is not fit for print.
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What Doug said is true. Submit a pic of your coach they want to see what the coach looks like before coming in. I am just going to say this. I get that some of you are pissed off. Please just let it go. It is what it is. Just do as asked and it will be fine getting in. End of story.
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I do not think you want to get into this fight..There are some 10year old coaches that can pass for new and not even you will know the difference
Howard Gilbert
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Howard mine is a prime example. It was update to 2016. It’s a 2000
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Cory,
Don’t presume to understand why I am pissed.
All resorts with a 10 year policy are discriminating. Typically their pricing tends to keep out what they consider “undesirables”, but those who would be so bold as to bring their older Prevost or even their 20 year old Winnebago likely will get the message after a day or two and move to another resort that is more welcoming and not such snobs.
We have owned our Prevost coaches for 27 years and we have met a ton of really great people and not once can I remember any discussion that would suggest because a person has an older coach that he was not fit to associate with. The age of the coach when used to discriminate to me is offensive. I now have a personal policy to never go to any RV resort whose age is greater than 10 years or whatever their coach age limit is.
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we’ve called about reservations at different places that had 10year old policies, but when we told them we have a Prevost, they said the policy didn’t apply to Prevosts.
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Guess I’ll keep moving. My beautiful coach hits 27 years old this year. Hummmm, wonder how many of them ‘plasteek’ coaches that old still look so good!!!
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Hugh is not the kind of guy to brag, but I will about his coach.
His coach has an interior to die for. It is a beautifully crafted wood interior that required a craftsmanship rarely found in today’s products. I have only seen one or two other coaches that have the kind of elegance his has and that coach is one of the ones that make the writers of the ten year rule look silly. Very few coaches that meet the 10 year rule are going to have the ageless quality about them.
I’ve already mentioned Buddy’s coach and Hugh’s coach as examples of really fine coaches. But there are so many really nice older coaches like Mike and Karen’s CC with amazing graphics, Or Terry and Deb’s Liberty that is always sparkling just as two more examples. I can go on but nobody should have to have some clerk in a RV resort decide if their coach meets some undefined standard once they pass 10 years of age.
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Jon wrote: “How very nice of them to consider the poor folks who are forced to drive coaches that don’t meet their standards.”
Those of us, possibly only some of us, and I know for sure at least one of us … were taken back by the stereotyping inference you made by suggesting those who own and drive coaches more than ten years old are “poor folks”. That is a conclusion on your part that just isn’t fair to some or most of us. We (or maybe just I) aren’t necessarily offended by your abrupt conclusion since it is so out of character for you … because as Tom has warned some of us … time does march on.
Rather than lump all more than ten year old coach owners into a class all their own its important to understand why some of us drive a coach more than ten years old. Maybe the coach was bought new and the owners liked it so much they never traded up … maybe the owner loves the conversion and the converter has ceased operation … maybe the owner doesn’t want to defile he or she coach with DEF and stays away from DEF coaches (which are typically less than 10 years old) … maybe the owner wants a rivet coach and doesn’t like the looks of the rivet-less coach and so on.
Eventhough I get my oil changes at ETLC and bought my shore power outlet fixture from Jamestown Advanced Products … I still have some money left and don’t consider myself poor folk … yet.
So don’t consider us “older coach owners” poor folks. We might be unfortunate or misfortunate because we’re discriminated against by campgrounds that have an arbitrary, poorly thought through ten year age limit … but I don’t think we’re poor folks.
[Turns and walks away mumbling … “Maybe we should start a new website and forum …. PrevostCommunity-OlderCoaches.” I wonder if Buddy and Dan Hilger would want to be founding members.”]
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Jon I agree but they won’t change it as much as we complain to them. It’s useless is all I am saying. I totally get it though
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