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Super C Diesel or Prevost
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Not a Prevost….So we all agree on that for anything else other than a Prevost. As with anything else appearance of the quality has gone up along with ride. They have made many SOB units very nice…They are a box on a frame that if you were in a accident would come apart…The limited time that is spent in the engine internals is so limited it to me is a mute point about ease to work on. Structurally is what is really the difference. Like many before no one has the parts support for a 20 year old vehicle like Prevost….
It does cost money to maintain and drive a Prevost…Safety and comfort are huge…I like to not have to crawl out of the cab of a truck to go take a leak while driving…
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From my experience last December on the way South for the winter, I will offer my opinion on the safety aspect of the Prevost.
I’m sure that many remember my post on accident that I was involved in. If not, you can pull up the post, read it, and see the photos. After a collision at cruising speed on I-75 South of Atlanta, GA there was very minor damage to the front end of my 1999 XLV Country Coach conversion.
I’m sure that the front-engine configuration appeals to many as a safety zone not there in a class A motorcoach/bus, and to some degree it is, but the structural integrity of the front end front end of a Prevost should not be under estimated. I feel very safe as I ride down the road in, what I consider to be, the closest thing to a Sherman Tank in a motorcoach that is highway legal.
After having said that, I doubt that either would come out very well in a head-on collision with a bridge abutment.
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Have I lost the ability to read? Did I actually see No-Slides Tom say he had THREE (3) slides?????
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Fred: I read the same thing. I’ll be in his neighborhood next week and confirm.
While Tom is likely welcome at ETLC for service, I’m expecting he’ll park in back (where you usually see the Newells parked), or at least be asked to.
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Don’t mess with Tom unless you are prepared to pay two or three times the dues you are now paying.
Every time I try to break his chops on the forum he cuts the amount of dues money he sends me in half so I’m giving you all fair warning.
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He doesn’t seem to keep any bus/RV/truck camper more than a few months, so this too will pass.
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Although I’m not an on site camp ground director anymore, I do have control of the gate via the internet…..so I don’t know how welcomed SOB my be.
I’ll open it for Nancy but Tom will have to go to the Motel 6.
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Where have you been Fred, I would have expected harassment long before now.
Buddy – I know where you live.
Dick – You need me to get you through the gate, careful….
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That’s Rite John bus accident for Josh Turner in Paso Robles Ca a little while back what that bus went through only 1 killed, It flew off a large cliff and did not self destruct has got to mean something.
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Tom: we have a Prevost … XLV … Liberty Coach. The gate guard just waves, opens the gate, and smiles as we slide through.
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Michael: We’ve been traveling. As I recall you’re from Green Bay and travel to Arizona (???). If we were still in Wisconsin I’d try to get Dana from Wisconsin Rapids to go to Green Bay to perform and intervention with you.
We started our quest looking for a Class 8 truck conversion (preferably a Peterbilt 379 with Cat engine and Allison transmission). We looked at three, all homebrew conversions. Also looked at a couple of Renegades. We did this because I thought either a Prevost would be beyond my price range or whatever was in my price range would be a roached out POS.
Boy was I wrong. We found an older Prevost Country Coach that had been updated for sale near Racine on I-94 and quickly changed course. Using the resources of POG, the PC, Geo Prentice, and the first All Prevost Show in Tampa we knew a Prevost was in our future.
We’ve had our 1999 Liberty for over 5.5 years. Bought with a Jeff Rowe inspection at 72,000 miles and then Jeff zero’d out the stuff that had or was close to aging out. We have 123,000 on it now. We’ve had some surprises and unexpected expenses … but nothing really beyond what Geo, Jeff, and Jon Wehrenberg told me I could plan for.
We’ve had to cancel trips twice. Once for six month old Interstate chassis battery that had a bad cell and again for the Vanner monitor module that melted down and took two accessory airlines with it. We were inconvenienced and had to delay take-off in Tucson when the then three year old Interstate chassis batteries failed us again (they were replaced at the campground by NAPA’s). The engine/trans computer put us in to limp mode when a leaking transmission rear seal caused the tranny fluid to get low and then under heavy braking into a right turn the tranny fluid low level sensor must have uncovered itself. Quick phone call to Jeff, turned the coach off, turned it on, everything OK. When from LaFayette LA to Prevost Houston where they replaced the seal, serviced the transmission, and we were our way.
Winter of 2018 we were on the road for 78 continuous days. 2019 100. This year we’re expecting 95 to 110. In 2020 or more likely we’re going to Alaska. Probably gone from Wisconsin 75 to 90 days. Might go alone, maybe with one or two other coaches, or in one of those caravans. Other than fluid changes, chassis service, and new tires … I’m very confident that our then 21 or 22 year old coach will not strand us.
I’m sure a Renegade or ShowHauler Class 8 truck conversion is nice. I hope to see a brand new Renegade in the next day or so; we’re parked less than 20 feet from one. I’m sure its nice.
Michael when you see the posts from Prevost owners who have a serious problem or who appear to be stranded on the road …. keep in mind there are probably 1,500 to 2,000 (and maybe more) Prevost owners on the Forum. This is the first place they have been conditioned to contact for help. The don’t call their Mother or their priest … they post here. So you’re going to see the worst situations barfed up onto the Forum or POG (or apparently now on one the Facebook pages). Don’t let that dissuade from buying a Prevost.
Keep in mind also that when Prevost has a problem on the road, you don’t have to take it to Prevost. I’d be very comfortable taking it to any Detroit Diesel/Allison shop in the country. I had occasion to talk to Liberty Coach’s Bill Doherty (long time Liberty keyman) and asked about service on the Detroit/Allison. He said he takes all their driveline issues to Inland Power in Bulter (WI), west side of Milwaukee off Silver Spring. Inland isn’t far from you in Green Bay. I’m sure there is a good DD/Allison shop in the Green Bay area.
I try to plan trips so we can get work down at ETLC by Jeff Rowe and his crew. Long haul I’ll admit. I’ve had work done at Nationwide Traveler in Appleton. The Marks family have been running Prevosts all over the country something like 35 years. Their mechanic has been with them for 25 years. They do it all. Close to you.
Michael in the end you’ll buy what you want to buy. I hope you buy it for the right reasons. If you decide to not buy a Prevost, I hope its not for the wrong reasons.
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