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Selling a Coach
Posted by Tom on September 17, 2014 at 2:39 pmHaving a coach up for sale has attracted various responders one of which is RVregistry.com. The coach is not listed with these folks so they have contacted me, gave me their spiel, and invited me to list with them – almost guaranteed that they had a buyer. Anyone had any dealings with these folks and, if so, do you recommend them? Thanks.
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I do not know about these people in particular but when I was selling my last coach I received dozens of calls and emails like this. My response was always the same.
“If you have buyers lined up to by my coach send my contact information to them. If one of them buys then I will send you triple your fee.”
They were asking about $350 to sell it and I would have gladly given them $1000 for a “real” sale. That was always the end of the conversation. SCAM
Davy
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Tom & Mary, Your best bets are to take DKO’s advice and list it on multiple sites. RVT and RV Trader, Prevost Community and E-Bay are reasonably priced and will give you a lot of exposure. The go to sale site for prevost is probably POG;s Prevost Stuff Busses for Sale, although much pricier. We sold our previous bus on POG’s site in 48 hrs and never had a chance to use the others I listed as planned.
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DKO nailed it. If they say they have buyers in waiting, and they want you to pay their fee up front ( they may ask you for your checking account number so they can withdraw their fee immediatley via debit), just say no. The conversation sounds like the lines of a scam that has been around at least 20 years.
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We attempted to sale our Foretravel in 2009 and listed at http://www.rvtraderonline.com, http://www.rvt.com, and http://www.rvregistry.com. We had no problems with any of these sites and their listings.
Reese
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We have dealt with some real dead beats from our rvonline ad…. but they are easy to weed out…. Our best responses have been from Ebay so far… Lots of lookers out there among a few good people.
Just hang in there !!
Financing is a problem on ours because of the age and the fairly high price but we’re not in a big hurry… and as most of you already know we are used to owning 2 RVs… LOL
Just hope we’re not at the “airport” when our “ship” comes in !!
Cheers, Diane
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I have little experience selling a coach. I have only done it twice and from those experiences I have come away with some opinions.
Ads anywhere on the internet will attract attention, but those on other than Prevost specifc sites such as the PC listing tend to bring out one of two types of “buyers”. Ebay gets a lot of exposure but along with that comes the scam artists, people who could care less about the coach but want to buy it for a few cents on the dollar, and folks who don’t know the difference between a Winnebago and a Prevost. Sometimes a real buyer can come out of that horde. The problem is the open bid process makes people think the fair price is a very low one. The coach history has little value and genuine buyers typically want a bargain, not a good coach.
The RV sales sites attract dreamers. They have a conventional motorhome and if they can sell it next week they want to buy my coach. They know a Prevost is a high quality coach, but they cannot appreciate that a 15 year old Prevost cannot be compared to their motorhome, and unless the motorhome owner has spent time participating on Prevost sites a lot of the conversation is aimed at trying to explain the color of the sofa is relatively unimportant.
Potential buyers who have been looking on Prevost sites such as ours are generally real, especially if they have been watching the listings, lurking or participating on the forums, and know the difference between a Royal or a Millennium. When I did sell my coaches I did use the non-Prevost sales sites for the exposure, but the bottom line is the forums were where potential buyers were able to learn about the coaches and make the decision to look at the coach which resulted in sales.
I can say from looking at coaches listed on various sites the exposure makes a buyer aware. But when I looked at the coaches I was surprised at how ill prepared sellers were. No proof of a maintenance program, no attempt to detail the coach or repair obvious defects, and absolutely no attempt to tell the truth when the answer was easily verified.
I personally know two coaches now for sale. I know how much Diane and Larry have put into maintaining their H3 and that if anyone is looking seriously at a 2 slide H3 with OTR that coach needs to be near the top of the wish list. Larry and Diane can tell you about the high quality care their coach has had including a very comprehensive amount of recent work by Ben and Rick at Coach Worx.
I also know Tom Roberts early 90’s Liberty. I first saw it when it was owned by a member from Washington state. He had the coach painted, added new inverters, and had a coach anyone would want, including Truk who bought it. Truk also added value when he had it. He sold it to Tom Roberts who has continued to maintain the coach and add updates.
Both coaches are owned by PC members and both are going to make someone very happy. Both are great step up coaches for motorhome owners. Both coaches are rare in that they are in exceptional condition having been maintained by owners that are very careful. This is a venue where potential buyers can ask about coaches because there are so many of us that know about other coaches. With almost 1400 members now there aren’t many coaches someone won’t know about.
So for you folks out there who are looking for a coach, maybe want to move up into a Prevost, start with our coach listings. Ask questions. If needed show up in OKC to see what owners like about their coaches and what they recommend to potential buyers. There is no better place on the planet to learn about coaches and specifically about coaches for sale.
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I sold a Newmar motorhome this year. I listed it on RV Trader and EBay. As soon as the ad posted on RV Trader, I received a call from a representative of RV Registry.
He left a message as if he was a potential buyer, not a saleman soliciting a listing. When I called him back and got his voicemail, the voicemail message only mentioned his name, and said nothing about RV Registry.
When I finally spoke with him, learned who he was and what he really wanted, I had already made up my mind…if you need to mislead me to initiate contact, you’re not going to sell me.
So, after declining his great offer to produce ready, willing, and able buyers, I googled “RV Registry.” I recommend that you do the same.
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Thanks to all who have responded to my post and especially to Jon for his kind words and plug. Jon and Tom (Truk) have both been of tremendous help in educatimg me on the basics and complexities of owning a Prevost and I couldn’t have made it without them. Members of Prevost Community are indeed fortunate to have these two, not only as a sounding board, but as people who can and will provide help. I don’t know of anyone else who is as willing as these two are to help others under any and all circumstances. And that is a good thing!
I have listed on ebay and so far my offers range from $10,000 to $35,000 plus a 1999 Foretravel on trade. I feel Jon is correct in saying ebay gets you exposure but it also brings forward a bunch of nuts. Most haven’t the slightest idea as to what they are dealing with.
At present, the coach is at East Tennessee Luxury Coach for Jeff and his crew to do my 2014 annual maintenance program, service Cruiseair’s and driver’s air, and ferret out a problem with the Tivolis and the generator. It will be in top shape once it is polished and waxed. I will do the latter but am not physically able to do the maintenance any more. I have truly enjoyed maintaining this bus although my better half begrudges the time spent in doing so. She is a good camper though and takes it all in stride. I guess she realizes it goes with the “package”.
Thanks again to you all. Peace!
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First and foremost, anyone looking at this 94 Liberty needs to click on the “webpage” that is shown on the listing here on PC.
Anyone trying to sell thier coach should click on the “webpage” that is shown on the listing here.
Is it clear…lol….seriously, Ive been searching for over 6 months, and I can scan through most ads fairly quickly mostly because I am weeding out the coaches that either do not fall within my scope of wants, needs or pricing.
I can tell you wholeheartedly that this is a coach that I would normally skip because:
1. Wasn’t in the year range – too old
2. Doesnt have OTR air
3. Not my first choice of colors
4. Not the style of interior I prefer
5. Was not what I had in mind at all
But then…after reading Jon’s posting about this and the Byrd’s coach above, I decided to have a look. First impression from just looking at the pics listed here…still not sold.
Then I clicked on the “webpage”…and my heart skipped a beat. First, I kept in mind what Jon had just said….AND WHAT HE PREACHES CONSISTANTLY ABOUT…..Documentation, Service, Upkeep….over and over again…well this coach has it in spades…..I am actually going to look this one over again and possibly rethink my wants and needs.
Not only do we get to see a much more detailed array of pictures, the Bio makes you just want to drive over and not only walk through this coach, but give them a hug for loving it so well. In my very humble opinion, this is the kind of set up I would think would lead to being able to spend as much time with the owners….right there in there drive or garage going over every single item for hours and days, having them teach me about the coach….reading all the records.
This is how I would love to see all coaches presented…..period. KUDOS
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Just for the record (again) when we bought our second coach we thought we were nuts because the decor was not us. We would not have ordered it, had we not had a Liberty prior to that one we would have walked away, but we knew Liberty coaches and were partial to them. As far as the layout and systems it checked all the boxes.
It did not take us long to really like what we considered an off-the-wall decor. Great lesson in that the appearance is not as important as we initially thought and even if it wasn’t one we really liked, by the time we sold the coach we had come to enjoy how it looked a lot.
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Gerard,
You’re
on the right track with Tom’s bus and thanks for the PC plug. We
think our Coach for Sale Ad’s are the best out there for the money
and Jon and I are able to see the big picture that show results. I
sold my Liberty on PC in several days and there are others out there
with the same success. We appreciate Tom’s support and we’re working
hard to help him out. When age and health force a life style change,
I think the folks here on PC are at their best.You
won’t find a better 94 Liberty, period. I purchased this bus from a
friend, Brian E, who owned it many years and he was as meticulous as
you get with impeccable service and maintenance records. I kept the
trend going while I owned the bus and continued to document every
repair and update. Tom has done the same thing as you can see in his
Ad. You will be able to see every detail outlined in the maintenance
logs from Brian, myself and Tom going back to probably around 2005. I
purchased it in 2008 from Brian.Nothing
better then the sound of the 8V92…. -
I was at Jeff’s and looked at that coach not to buy but because it caught my eye it is in great shape , paint is perfect and when you open the motor you can eat off it and the gen bay is cleaner than most peoples bathrooms if I was looking for one that would be it, Diane’s is another one when you have people who care about everything on the coach not just the wash and wax but the workings of it you can’t beat it … I think that if a coach has being cared for and all things done maintenance and has being used just not sitting around its a better deal miles mean nothing , I sold this year my Royale with something like 230,000 miles it was in top shape it did not even hit the market and it was sold , Dave is good for 10 years before he will have to do anything to it expect maintenance oil , tires , batteries just my thoughts
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This is an obvious sales pitch for PC and I hope it helps both buyers and sellers.
Our membership is now so large it is highly probable we have a member within a few miles of every coach listed for sale. The advantage to that is a potential buyer is probably able to have a member located near the coach for sale to do a preliminary look at the coach.
It is very difficult to evaluate a coach via the internet or phone, so when a buyer and seller reach a point at which it makes sense for the buyer to look at a coach it is often a good thing to have someone nearby give it a first look. I know we have members doing that right now and the benefit of getting a preliminary look is very valuable. It saves the buyer from spending a lot of time and money to look at a coach that has issues that do not show up in the photos. From photos you cannot tell if a coach has the odor of cigarette smoke or mold and mildew. You cannot see the many tiny clues that show excessive wear and tear.
On the other hand you also cannot see just how exceptional some coaches are in their overall condition. It is hard to justify a price that is higher than other similar coaches unless you see a pristine coach with evidence of care everywhere you look. A preliminary look by a nearby member will be a great way to get an accurate reading about a coach for sale. Truth be told, if everything you see in photos on the internet and hear on the phone tell you it is a coach for you to look at, a quick look by a fellow member will confirm what you are already sensing about a coach.
A seller can benefit highly from having an unbiased set of eyes looking at a coach. Peter’s comments are on target about Tom Robert’s coach and now anyone looking for an absolute first class coach can justify the time and expense to see it because Tom is not exagerating when he describes the coach in his ads. Peter is well respected here, and if anyone as detailed as he is blesses a coach you know it is a good one.
So if you are a buyer and you are reluctant to spend the time and money to cross the country to find your new coach, don’t hesitate to ask for someone to do a preliminary look on your behalf. Anyone selling a great coach is going to welcome that preliminary review..
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I looked at the website for that coach, and I agree with Gerard…it was very informative, and it sure looked like the owners of that coach had been caring custodians.
Personally, I want Jon to inspect any coach I am considering, and I want him to teach me how to use all of the systems. If I could get this arranged, I would even buy a Liberty!
BTW, I am getting ready to pull the trigger….I think
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