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they have matured ove.r the last several years with their floor plan layout,the Emerald that Liberty sells is manufactured by them and I assume that Liberty has some input into the floor plan.

[Peter]

Andy,

Originally, when we started thinking of a Prevost, the Outlaw is what caught my attention as the price seemed so attractive. Looking further into it, you get a lot of bang for the buck. But, it’s not the same as a Liberty, Marathon or Millennium coach. That doesn’t mean it’s bad, just not the highest quality but nicely done.

We have a four slide Liberty. We wanted the extra space on the inside. You cannot get OTR (over-the-road) with four slides. We didn’t really want it as the four roof airs are fine for us (and we have dash air with an auxillary unit). With four inverters, we can run all the roof airs without the genny if we want.

Having one slide in the living area will give you a larger kitchen. We don’t cook so that was not a priority.

I know that you have looked at a lot of coaches as I have seen your RV video’s. Enjoyed them.

Safe travels,

Mark

[Corey]

Thanks Mark,

Yes, for a newer Prevost, the price is attractive and, as you can tell by my screen name, so are the included electronics!

When you say it’s not the same quality as a Liberty, Marathon or Millenium, where do you think the Outlaw models are cutting back to get to the price points? The leathers and woods? The lack of OTR air? Hopefully, not the plumbing or electrical or the quality of the Prevost chassis and structure!

Thanks for the kind words on my videos. It’s been quite an adventure visiting the various factories. If you’ve kept up with my blog, I’ve had a few choice opinions about the state of the RV and motorhome industry and am now keeping my focus on Prevost and Newell models.

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Don’t confuse Outlaw and Emerald…tho both built by John Walker….Outlaw now on H and Emerald on X3. Two

different price points. Geo.

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I’ve looked at several Emeralds and I thought they were well done at an attractive price for a new buyer.

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Hello Andy,

One of the differences between Outlaw and Liberty is the paint job. Liberty’s paint jobs take 1,100 man hours (if I’m not mistaken). The light-weight cabinets, wood floor, heated floor, extra LED exterior lighting, chrome accents, etc. We have a larger diesel fired heating system.

I think there are a lot of little differences that add up when you consider the whole picture.

We have four alternators, the Outlaw has three. We have four inverters, the Outlaw has two. It’s things like that add to the cost of a Liberty. Also, Lithium Ion battery technology.

There is certainly nothing wrong with a Outlaw/Emerald, just look at the details and see what works for you.

Mark

[Tim]

I don’t think there is a reasonable way to evaluate the differences between conversions without first having lived with or owned one for a period of time.

There is so much to any conversion regardless of how well equipped or not that to a first time buyer, especially someone with no RV experience the biggest factor in a buy decision may come down to colors or decor. Mark uses the number of inverters to make a point regarding the differences and he is absolutely correct. He is correct in stating that is a contribution influencing the cost difference. However why there are 4 instead of 2 may not be obvious and it is likely a buyer will assume a coach with 2 is less capable than a coach with 4 and that would not be correct.

We were clueless when we bought our first coach, more so than new buyers of today because we had no internet, never spoke to a Prevost owner, did not know the difference between a Liberty or a Winnebago except for the obvious features and the seller was the widow of the owner who had only recently bought the coach and she was just overwhelmed.

After buying it and realizing there were a lot of other choices we could have made we began noticing the differences between our coach and others and that allowed us to imagine how a feature we had was valuable or not. And since we are all different and use our coaches differently what worked well for us might not have been important to others. As it turned out we met with Don Hoffman of Hoffman Coach (a well respected converter) prior to the purchase and he was the one that tipped the scales relative to moving ahead with the purchase and he was right in telling us how good the coach was. As we used it and compared it to other coaches our first year or two we realized what we had purchased and how well it worked for us.

To get back to inverters, we have two. But we are power pole to power pole users. If we aren’t at a power pole the generator is running. So our inverters are only limited to light duty, running our refrigerator as we drive, and keeping our batteries topped off by maintaining the charge. We have OTR so we are not running heavy loads like AC units so having four inverters would not benefit us, and in fact would take up valuable space. My point is even if a new buyer has specifications for two different coaches there is not a snowball’s chance in Hell the printed word is going to mean anything during an evaluation and it may come down to which salesman is the most compelling.

We have a lot of features on our coach that have real value to us. Some I would laugh at until we got them on a coach. Now they are very important to us. Other features sound impressive and I thought they would make the coach better for us, and yet we have quite a few features we haven’t used and probably never will. Until a newbie lives with a coach doing a tire kicking comparison is almost impossible unless he can imagine how everything works relative to his needs.

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Thanks All for the responses.

While there’s little conversation online about the Outlaw models, they seem to fill a niche in the Prevost conversion lineup and deliver quite a bit of bang for the buck on the tried and tested Prevost chassis.

I’m interested to hear the opinions of the ride characteristics of the H3 vs the XL chassis and if it’s negligable or if there are some obvious differences. Opinions welcomed!

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Andy, the ride and drive are the same between X and H. You make a decision based on cockpit and interior layout, bay size and overall height. How you want any given conversion equipped is going to be based on how you plan to use the coach. If you plan to travel a lot you may want 2 slides and OTR. If you sit in one place for longer periods, 3-4 slides might be desired and OTR not as much a consideration. Keep in mind that the second salon slide pretty much mucks up the use the outside when parked. Geo.

[Tim]

Andy,I just purchased a 2012 H3 and traded a 2008 XLII so I have an opinion on the differences.The H3 is quieter in the drivers seat,seems to respond quicker in the curves on the interstate as far as air bags not allowing the coach to lean and in general I seem to use less effort to stay in the center of the lane.I had Koni shocks on the XLII and put them on the H3 so that is the same except for the tag on the H3 which takes a front shock so I used the old ones there and purchased new ones for the steering.You should probabally compare an X3 to the H3 if that is what you are thinking of purchasing.I really like the way the H3 drives.

[Corey]

I think part of the difference in noise, which is small to begin with is the driver in the H is sitting in an area somewhat enclosed due to the higher salon level and small distance lower seat level.

Also if your eyes are accustomed to the driver;s height in an X model, the lower seating if the H tends to put you closer to the road, where things seem to be happening faster. A new driver of any coach has to learn that the further your eyeballs are from the highway, the slower you seem to go. Sitting in a very low car you get a sense of speed, and sitting higher up, such as in a truck or bus the less sense of speed you get.

Geo? What say you regarding your experience with the two shells?

[Dick]

I can really only compare an XLV to an H3 as far as a goodly amount of miles. No comparison…but the H is the XLII chassis. However, did deliver a 07 XLII for Jeff (about 150mi trip)…better than the XLV, but I prefer the drive and handling of our H. That said…it’s pretty nuanced…would suggest anyone drive both. Geo.

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I went from an XLII to an H and don’t see any difference in handling, the only noticeable difference is the driver seat height above the ground is a little lower. I like the way the H drives, it just feels better.