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First I’d like to Thank everyone for allowing us to join the community. I am the Mrs. and trying to gain all the knowledge I can before we make the leap. We have had a DP for many years but a Prevost is a big big leap. Looking at 2000-2006 XL2 Liberty Coach. Jon your articles are such a great wealth of information I can’t Thank You enough for sharing. Do you know of anyone in the TN area who does PDI before purchasing coach from dealer?
The Mrs.Ha! Ha! Deborah Hubby Craig and new member
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Yes. Specifically because you mention a Liberty the go to guy is Jeff Rowe at East Tennessee Luxury Coach.
But as strongly as I feel about Jeff doing a PDI, I also fee strongly you must do things outside of what ETLC will provide. First your focus needs to have skin delamination inspections done at Prevost. Nowhere else. And that has to be done before money changes hands because it can be a big deal.
You need to have the history run on the engine and transmission. The codes should be retained in memory and in fact in the transmission Allison can provide details such as the status of clutch wear. Only a Detroit Allison shop can provide that detail.
Finally, the whole rest of the inspection can be done by you, in concert with Jeff or the seller. Jeff is your back up because he knows the coach inside and out, but that inspection is your training. By systematically operating every knob, button, switch and dial you not only will know what that knob, button, switch or dial does, you will confirm it by seeing it operate what it is supposed to. That alone may take 2 or 3 days, but if done systematically when you are done you will have operated everything in the coach that operates and know what works or does not work.
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Retired 18 wheeler driver here. Volvo D-13 power exclusively. Beginning due diligence on Prevost Conversion Coaches. We have done exhaustive research on much smaller Class B + Leisure Travel Vans . Nice units to be sure . The critical factors of safety and space being the deciding criteria driving us to begin this journey of informational discovery upon the Prevost conversion platforms.
My wife and I reside in northwestern Arizona. We are going to be returning permanently to East Tennessee in the near future . We are looking for a vehicle to safely & comfortably full time in initially. We will use our bus as our base of operations as we search for our Permanent home.
I feel comfortable doing engine inspections, brake inspections, airlines inspections from my days on the Big Truck. The plumbing and Electronics / electrical not so much…. That is why we are here. We don’t know what we don’t know . We hear this forum as well as the owners forum is chock full of hundreds of years of practical everyday experience .
Initially, we have found out to be aware of the de-lam issue on the XL-II models. IF a de-lam has been repaired by Prevost shouldn’t that be noted in vehicle documentation ? What type of warranty does that Rivet work carry from Prevost
Like so many newbies can attest; the learning curve is steep but it does level off as competency is gained. So here to learn from a wealth of combined real world experiences.
So that being said, we like the Liberty coaches and H3-45. We will allow someone else take the initial depreciation hit so honestly, what type of coach can we expect to see for an outlay of say 300-475 k ?
We appreciate the Community for allowing us entree. Thank you so much. We prayerfully will receive some great responses .
Ya’ll come stay longer next time , ya hear ?
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XKI,
The price range you cite and the coach you like within that price range is realistic.
The more you look, the more you actually see in person, the better prepared you are going to be to evaluate coaches that are offered for sale.
You will know when a coach is for you, usually the minute you step inside. If you have sharpened your focus as it appears there will be less you do not know, and a whole lot you do know without initially realizing it.
The XLII repairs using the rivet process are evident. There will be strips covering the vertical joints between panels. That repair is as permanent as the skin on XL models.
The vintage Liberty coaches you mention have some quirks, but so do just about every conversion so don’t write off good candidates, but adjust your thinking pricewise to adjust for making the coach more to your liking.
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Welcome, you will have a good source for repairs and service in East Tennessee, Jeff at East Tennessee Luxury Coach is in Vonore. He has several Libertys for sale, you might want to reach out to him.
1984 96" with 8V92TA
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Welcome XKI,
I had the wrong trucking job.
D13’s only been in the states 13 years, you must of had a heck of a career only driving a D13 and retiring.
Plenty of Liberty folks on here to help spend your money.
Later
bv
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regarding having only Prevost inspect for possible delam on an XL2…
if the Liberty coach is being sold by Liberty (the motorhome exchange) and they are doing their PDI, would you still recommend Prevost do the inspection, or would Liberty PDI be sufficient?
in general, would you accept Liberty’s PDI or still recommend a complete detailed self exam of every switch/button/system before payment?
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Let me point out that if you buy an XLII and do not know it has been recently tested by Prevost and found to be OK, or if it has the Prevost rivet repair including the strips over the joints between panels you are at risk.
Anyone selling an XLII coach has a serious conflict of interest because someone is going to have to pay for repairs on a coach with loose panels. Skin repair costs, including paint have been in mid 5 figures.
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thanks for your reply, I appreciate it
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Sorry this has nothing to do with your post my question is.
How do you make a post can you please help me.
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FYI all – I sent an email to Gator to assist.
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