[Per]

never was that skinny! If it were I cramed in there it would be my last position. Glad you posted pictures for others to see what they are getting into. Me I have to remove batt etc to get access. Bob

[Archived]

Looks great they will do good job that starter is the best one out there

Tell Josh to get off his phone and get to work , What’s taking so long !!!!!

[Archived]

FYI 40 foot coach then Country Coach has the coolant lines next to the starter from the webasto, this set up there is even less room to work than most…Starter is on and sounds great….the tool Peter posted is the best way to get to these starter bolts.

[Peter]

Great job buddy looked very cramped in there tell Josh and Dan good job too

[Charles]

So here are some more photos showing the difference between the two starters, the damaged teeth on the old starter and how cramped it was removing and installing the starters.

A great job by all. It started right up the first try and sounds great.

Thank You Jeff, Dan, and Josh.

Michael

[Peter]

Did you guys roll over the engine and inspect the flywheel? With teeth damaged like that it is possible the flywheel has sustained some damage and the cheapest time to deal with that is before you are somewhere in the boonies and it won’t start.

For those saying I might be nuts thinking we can turn the engine over by hand, rest assured a socket wrench on the pulley that drives the alternator serpentine belt will allow you to easily roll the engine over.

[Archived]

Jon top notch shops like Jeff’s always check that out.There are a lot more coaches out there with starters that look like that , that have not had problems starting, but because they do not drive them enough it does not show up a lot , it’s better to change it out before it happens in a shop than broke down at lunch time at a rest area, Take my word for it , if I was zeroing out a coach that is one of the first things I change out,if it has the old delco heavy one , also tires ,batteries all air bags , ride height valves and so on and so on

My advice is change it out and be safe the new one is much lighter and better

Take it to Jeff’s and have them put a new one on when you have time if it won’t start after a night on the road or a stop for lunch you will wish you had ,not fun to do one on the road there are some wiring changes that are done from the old one to the new one ,if the new one fails it’s much easier to replace it than taking out the old one which may take up to three guys to get out very heavy. I would not worry about the color of the chairs or the headlights first , I would be doing things that get it down the road. The starter is on the top of the list for me .

[Ronald]

Thanks for the pictures Michael, don’t forget the pictures of your new Pressure Pro Pulse when you can..

[Larry & Diane]

I’am sure Jeff or his hardworking crew took a look inside the bell housing.

Can’t remember as it’s been awhile but most engines usually stop running in the same position or is it 2 positions?

Maybe the race car guys would know ?

Another point is the starter teeth are manufactured of softer metal then the flywheel ring gear. That’s to save huge expense of ring gear replacement. Trash the starter not the flywheel.

As shown in the picture gear teeth have been nicked a few times but I did not see anything alarming.

Some or most of starter teeth damage could have occurred when starter began to fail.

AL

[Archived]

Michael did you replace the starter because you had problems with the old starter ??? or was this just to be sure of no problems down the road

[Davy]

The damage I saw on the starter suggested the gear was spinning before it fully engaged. The resulting noise was likely undetectable because you cannot hear it from the driver’s seat, and even if you did a rear start it took place over a fraction of a second. So over the long term the damage seen accumulates. One of the worst sounds is when the flywheel damage ends up with the starter engaging and spinning, but the motor doesn’t turn over. That would be my concern with a partially damaged flywheel.

But if the flywheel is showing any signs of similar damage replacing the starter is postponing the inevitable.

I like the looks and size and weight of the replacement. It looks to be high quality and is the way to go.

[Peter]

Peter I elected to replace the existing starter as preventative maintenance and on your suggestion. Plus the fact the existing starter was from early 1998 and I had put over 220,000 miles on it.

Michael

[Corey]

Jon,

Dan says he inspected the flywheel and it looked factory new with very little wear. He polished it up some while he was in there.

Michael

[Dorel]

Good job and great choice , glad you did it sooner than later you will be good for a long time now,

there are a lot of coaches out there with starters in the same shape but they just don’t know it yet!!!!!

Glad you got it done

I always wonder when we give advice if anybody ever hears what is said , glad you did.

[tom]

Michael, how much was the starter installed, if you don’t mind sharing. Geo.