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New 315 Michelins
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Tom,
Thank you, I’ll give it a try and let you know how it works.
Chris
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Only you, the owner can decide what tire to use. I will only use Michelin. When we had our truck fleet running, we tried many other brands. NOTHING could even come close to the reliability and longevity of the Michelin. When Michelin came out with their own retreads, we used only those from that point on as well. They were superior in every measurement we had for judging tires and recaps.
They may be somewhat more expensive, but to me they are worth every penny. Your mileage may vary.
Our use was spread over 200 tractors and just under 600 trailers FWIW.
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I guess it doesn’t matter how good the Michelins are, nor what the price is, if you need tires now and they are out 6-8 weeks.
I’ll have to make a decision tomorrow what to buy, local truck tire dealer highly recommends BF Goodrich. -
10-4 On what Mark said, I agree
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Mark and I are usually in full agreement on everything. But I will play devil’s advocate just to confuse this issue a little.
From the viewpoint of a fleet owner it is hard to disagree with Mark’s comments. But we have some issues in play here. First, Michelin doesn’t have tires so that makes the use of Michelin tires a bit of a problem. But the seond issue is Mark’s fleet of trucks was wearing out the tires. Few of us will wear out a tire. Our tires will age out first.
That forces us to look at tire purchases from a different perspective. When I bought the Chinese Double Coin tires at half the cost of Michelins I justified the decision if the tires gave me good service for 3 years. If they went beyond three years I was way ahead. They did. In fact they continued to perform well until I sold the coach. I think they were 5 years old at the time.
Today I will always try to use Michelin and not consider the economics because the cost of other brands is closer than they were when I bought the Double Coin tires. But I cannot justify the Michelins because they will deliver a measurable benefit on my coach compared to other brands because unlike Mark’s experience I am not wearing them out or pushing them to the limit.
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From my experience, I can agree with Mark. I’ve had the bus seven years and early in that time I installed new 315 michelins in all positions.
Now here is why I’m posting this: My neighbor (trucker) told me it was the only brand you do not need to balance. So I tried it, and he is right. Please, don’t want to start any controversy here as nothing said would change what I do. Finally mentioning it here in case someone wants to take advantage of it.
We had a balancing thread in the past that I did not want to disclose this on.
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I have never put a tire on anything not ballanced other than my wheel barrow.
I would like to hear that from Michelien, it could have saved me from buying Centramatics, which I love so far.
Even if the tire is ballanced what about the wheels.
You have not had any problems so far ?
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I have never heard that you do not have to balance a Michelin. In the old days, we did not balance drive or trailer tires, but after we got new spin balancers in our shops, we did all wheel positions. It did make a difference in ride quality and tire life.
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I would not ask Michelin.
If the mass (tire, wheel, valve stem, lug nuts, hub, rotor/drum) is rotating smoothly, what is there to do?
No, I have had no problem so far – five years.
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I ordered BF Goodrich tires today, warehouse had them in stock.
Tire store informed me that FMCA now has the fleet discount arranged with BF Goodrich also,same as with Michelin.
He called and got me the discounted price.
He also informed me that BF Goodrich is owned by Michelin. I Googled it, BF Goodrich quit making tires in 1988, Michelin bought the BF Goodrich name and manufactures tires with the BF Goodrich name on them. -
Larry,
What sort of “discount” price did you get for the BFGs. What model of tire did you ordered
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Goodrich ST230, $610 + taxes
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For comparison, here was my cost per tire through our Michelin program in June:
315’s 6880
365’s. 7290
That was direct billing from Michelin and included TN tax, FET and 50 per tire junk fee.
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Tom, I got about the same price as you, on Michelins, but no one has them and my guy said he could not get a delivery date, maybe 6-8 weeks, I couldn’t wait.
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Question? Why is there a Michelin tire shortage? Anyone been given a reason?
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