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Need your Opinion on a Coach
Posted by Michael on January 5, 2017 at 4:42 pmI found this Coach outside of Chicago and I am getting more photos and information; Based on the information available are there any pitfalls that I should be aware of with this Coach. I know it is not a Prevost but thought in the interest of education I would check you this esteemed group and get your opinion, Michael
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You may want to go to the Country Coach owners group on IRV2. There are a number of folks there that own CC Concepts, and can give you pointers on what to look for besides the inspection you should do on any coach. Country Coach built the Concept for a fairly short time, but there are still several around. Country Coach built solid coaches, and properly taken care of, a CC should last a long time.
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I think the best answers are going to come from CC owners.
With a CC Prevost conversion you have Prevost support for the chassis and that is important. That is one reason why “orphans” are not to be ruled out as potential candidates for purchase. But this is a chassis that was built in very limited numbers and parts have the potential to be non-existent. For example, what happens if you scrape the bay doors? Or how do you go about sourcing even common parts that you can get through Prevost or with trade numbers through a local truck supply house. Who can provide sources or part numbers?
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Thanks for the thought on spare parts and continued service. Michael
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It’s unique, but in the motorhome world, uniqueness is valuable only to the owner. That might be a great coach, but it is the orphan of all orphans since it is very rare. Seller is wrong when he says this was CC concept before Prevost. CC was converting Prevosts for at least 10 years prior to 1998. The earlier Concept models were built on Gillig bus chassis, which is beefy. Not sure about later years. This needs pretty careful research.
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FYI – for better or for worse that coach has been on Craiugslist since early last summer. I called about it and got more photos before I realized it was not on a prevost chassis. so, you know it has already been for sale through one complete RV season….(and didnt sell…why?)
It does have a prevost look – which creates some allure – But I am on the same side as Jon… especially parts and service. Not only would it be tough to possibly locate them, but you may have to take things apart to figure out what they may be….most shops will not be interested in taking a coach apart to figure out what to order (they wont let it take up a lift that is for sure)….
Also keep in mind – with the age of the CC, it probably needs airbags, shocks, etc. etc. – how do you go about getting a idea on this potential cost if the parts are difficult to determine.?
lastly – if you own this coach for some time. what is the potentail value 5- 10 years from now?
It already has less value than a much older Prevost. – I cant imagine this would bode well in the years to come. – at least in that repsect.
Just my thoughts.
Mike
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Michael,
Run away don’t walk… I’ve had 3 fiberglass and a Prevost CC and I can tell you the Concept was a nightmare. CC built great coaches, but the Concept wasn’t one of them…
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We concur with Truk. We’ve owned two Country Coaches An Affinity and Prevost XLV two slide. Concepts are very intriguing. Do as Tom says……..run the opposite direction😲
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Thank you all for your input. I have abandoned any thought on this Coach. I appreciate all of your candid comments. Michael
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Michael, I kind of know what you are going through right now as we were there 7 yrs ago. We had had a succession of “mainstream” plastic MH’s for many yrs and finally were fed up. We knew about Prevost but like many thought that they were out of reach for what we were willing to spend for something not condsidered a necessity. So, we bought a Featherlite Vogue 5000 and while a huge step from where we had been (and much better than a CC Concept),still a far cry from a Prevo conversion. Ironically, shortly thereafter we got our first Prevo and it was CC conversion, which turned out to be a great bus. There really is no comparison and there really are no stop-gap units. It is well worth the wait to find the right Prevo that suits your needs and your pocketbook. Geo.
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So at what age Coach do you discard looking at it. I have seen a lot of Prevost’s that are from 1989 to 2000. Of course the older the Coach the harder it is to get parts and the Coach has in most cases sat and are being sold because the owners are getting up in age and don’t want to continue traveling or health has changed the direction of their lives. I have read all the posts about pre-inspections and appreciate that from all the posts I have read. But, where do you just say no to a 1985 Coach because is to old to zero out or to spend the money for a pre-inspection? I have now begun to zero in on my wants, needs, and affordability, now I need to find the right Coach. Thanks for all your input. Michael
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Michael, two things stood out when I read the initial post. I have a 1991 CC so those two C’s are not what I will be referring to. First, the coach is in CHICAGO of all places, our homicide and shooting capital of America. Second, the coach is listed on Craigslist. RUN as fast as you can away from this coach. Your life is in danger just going for a first hand inspection of the coach. Even President #44 has no intention of returning to Chicago. Instead he has announced he will remain in Washington, DC.
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Michael, I’ll give you a thumbnail sketch. We bought a my 94 CC from the original owner, he was turning 90 and hadn’t used the bus for 3 or 4 years. It had it’s own ac and heated barn. We knew we were going to spend time and money updating it, just probably not to the extent that we will. Lol. We have a long laundry list of things we’ve done from new interior to new radiator and stuff in between.We are 2 years into a 3 year plan of zeroing it to our comfort level. Fortunately I’m mechanical, otherwise the costs would be substantially more. By the time we finish we’ll approach our purchase price, we bought the bus right so by the time we’re done it won’t break the budget. In the meantime we’ve put on 25k miles and enjoyed every minute!
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I’m not sure age can be the sole determination of what makes a coach a candidate for a purchase.
Having said that features that have been incorporated in the design as the coach evolved may influence the age range. An example would be if you needed a 45 foot coach. In the XL, depending on how the converter titled the coach you might rule out any coach older than a 95 for example. The same thing goes for the Series 60 as opposed to an 8V92, with the 95 or 96 model years being the oldest 40 footers with the Series 60 engine.
If you want Prevost slides your oldest coach might be a 2001.
The reality is none of us are likely to wear out a Prevost conversion because if we car for it properly it will have in excess of a million miles before the cost of repairs begins to exceed its value (to us, not the market).
My ideal coach would be a 2 slide, XLV with Prevost slides, a Series 60, long range fuel, OTR, and a solid front axle. Since there is no such animal I have to pick what I can live without and I end up with a coach like the one I currently own. I wish it had rivets and long range fuel, but in buying a coach we just have to define what is important to us and make the best choice.
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I have always been partial to the look and function of the H3. In as much as we will be using it to travel between Arizona and Wisconsin and to visit friends in Florida and staying in their homes, we are inclined to forgo the slides. I am looking for a D60, and two lounge chairs with a dining set facing each other and OTR heat and air a must. That is about it. I could live with an XL if the right one came along. Thanks for your input Go Pack
Cheers Michael
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