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Make your own diesel fuel
Posted by Greg on June 18, 2013 at 9:08 pmI have a friend that for about 2 years has been making his own diesel. His bag cost per gal is .80/gal. He also claims that through his refiner, his diesel is cleaner and better for the engine.
Anyone doing the same?
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If you do it buy a lot of fuel filters. These buses are not like a diesel pickup they cost a lost to fix. As someone said on one of the bus websites fuel is the least of your expenses in own a Prevost.
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My concern would be how that impacts the engine over a long time period or large number of miles. I suspect a mechanical engine would do OK on most anything that will burn, but what happens when anything other than #1 or #2 is run through a DDEC engine?
To me just pumping fuel at the diesel island at the truck stop is something I would rather not do. I cannot imagine what kind of steps I would have to go through to get a couple of thousand gallons of home brew to keep me going for the average year of travel.
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Add labor and equipment cost,supplies,and upkeep— then ask him how much his total cost per gallon he has used is? $500 per gallon? Pre heat raw fuel on board? Extra tank space? Any thing can be done! Just pointing out some points. Have heard many doing it for low cost. Most stop because of production time and transportation problems of finished product. If it is a hobby the labor and some of the operational cost can be written off. Haven’t heard of it in a 60 serries? Is his a 60 serries? Bob
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he makes 50 gals at a time and it takes him 1 1/2 hours to make it, which is a weeks worth. He saved last year 78000 just for his pick up truck.
bio-diesel seems to be more popular, I figured someone was running their coach on it….
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Several have tried. Pick up is a differant engine. It works(2 stroke Bus) but requires several times more fuel and preheating etc. With the fuel rail system in the modern 4 stroke and ddec I don’t know of anyone that has been sucessful. Didn’t mean to be snappy but there is a whole group that does this and most give up on bus side after awhile because of space required and time. Pickup trucks seem to do Ok. If you go to BCM and seach veggie diesel you will find a whole slew of info. You can do this as a guest. I would do it my self if I though it would work. I understand the biggest reason in our engines is the size of the mist from the injectors. Also tendency of the home made to wax and not be consistant. Where the pickup motors or more forgiving our motors are not. Jon said it all; the old engines would run on ATF or just about anything. How old is his Pickup engine/just currious? Bob
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A man next to my yard mixes diesel and used automatic fluid at a 50 / 50 mix runs through one filter and runs it in his ford 7.3 electronic,, his race car toter 60 series detroit ,, and his prevost 8v92 . he lets the atf set in a 500 galon plastic drum for about a week and all bad settles to the bottom than he mixes it with off road since the atf is red also filters it as he puts it in vehical. his cost is just under two bucks a gallon . He has been doing this for years. and has not had any thing go bad. He dose have a trans repair shop .
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If he is using off road fuel, and mixing with old oils, he could wind up in trouble with the law. Off road is a no-no for on highway vehicles, and mixing old oils etc. can get you a visit from the tax people.
We used to blend our used motor oil with our fuel for trucks and had to pay tax on the gallons of oil we put in the fuel tanks. We did it primarily to get rid of the old oil without having to haul it away. It did NOT burn as clean as regular fuel, and with the advent of electronic injectors we decided to quit doing it.
It isn’t worth the hassle or problems it can cause.
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