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  • Paul

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Double K,

    No irritation from us over the slide vs non-slide, we take whacks at each other all the time in good natured fun. So keep posting and don’t be afraid to look at a non slide bus, we just turn the key and go while our slide buddies are dumping tags, pushing buttons hoping their slide motors or seals don’t break or the bus fails to go in gear because of a 100 micro switch that’s going to cost them 3,0000. See what I mean!:)

  • Archived

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Ignore Tom. He has no choice but to sing his song about slides because if he ever lets up Nancy will be all over him. She wants slides and he has used every excuse in the book.

    There are slides in his future.

  • Larry & Diane

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Probably in about another 11 months if Tom keeps to his last schedule for bus replacement….then he will get Nancy slides…right??

  • Archived

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Our Liberty doesn’t have slides. Slides weren’t important to me and in the price range we were looking (last 90’s) slides don’t exist.

    Our second trip with the coach was to Indianapolis Motor Speedway for the vintage race a couple of weeks ago. We parked the race car and trailer in the grass paddock and had a full service spot in the motor coach lot. There was a 45′ H plus two 45′ Liberty XL’s … ours and Jack Finch’s. We noticed that as people walked by they would slow down and look the Prevost over. Across the way and over six or seven spots there was a S&S motorhome that always had lots of people around it. On one of my trips from Gasoline Alley back to the bus I came upon three women standing in from of our coach and talking. As I walked by them one of them stopped me and started to ask questions about the bus. I knew what their were goal was, so finally I asked them if they’d like a tour.

    Guess what … of course they did. I left them in Cathie’s hands and headed out to the race car to do some stuff. 30 minutes later upon my return they were still talking with Cathie. The most outspoken, vocal of them all started to ask lots of questions … how old, how many miles, how much costed, etc. etc. Finally she said, “We just bought ours from an estate. Only a couple of years old, a few thousand miles. Thought we got a good deal. The slides don’t work half the time, your motor home has so much more room than ours. I think we made a mistake. I want my husband to see this.”

    We don’t have slides, so I don’t know what we’re missing. If we had kids and/or entertained often I might feel differently. As Corey told us when he and George showed us their former XL at the Tampa Fairgrounds last year … “Cocktails for six, dinner for four, and sleeping for two.” But if its “cocktails for six” … why only four outside chairs?

    Only you will know the coach that is right for you and your lady.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 11:35 pm

    George, it sounds like you have done your homework, but if you and your wife have not been inside a few non-slide Prevosts you should be sure to tour some right away. There is absolutely no comparision between a non-slide motorhome and a non-slide Prevost. Even if the square footage is the same, the gigantic windows of the bus make it so much more open and livable as Dick was referring to. I went from a no-slide 40 foot Prevost to a 3 slide 42 foot motorhome, and almost immediately back to a non-slide 45′ bus (of “some other brand” as we are described on this site). Our use includes hauling a lot of people on day trips and tailgating, cross-country travel with some overnights in truckstops and rest areas, and camping from boondocking to hi-lux resorts. For us the non-slide layout works better for everything except possibly extended resort stays, but even then we spend most of our time outside, so we really don’t miss the extra space and we very much appreciate the more open interior while in travel mode, not to mention that we can pull into a truckstop, shut off the engine, and go to bed, without any additional rigamarol. I don’t know if the extra bay space is a blessing or a curse, as we tend to bring too much stuff with us just because we can.

    p.s.: No one should take relationship advice from me, but I will say that if you and your significant other are not in accord, one of you should convince the other and you should go into this as a team. Its a fantastic hobby that is best if shared by the whole family.

    p.p.s: We are heading out on a 4500 mile round trip from LA to N. Wisconsin this weekend. We have a few scheduled stops in nice places and will have a few overnights at WalMart or rest area wherever we feel like stopping. No slides makes that easy.

    Good luck with your hunt.

  • Greg

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    Where in northern Wisconsin?

  • Bryan

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 12:23 am

    Visiting Mom in Rhinelander, home of the Hodag. I grew up there. Stopping to see sis in Platteville on the way.

  • Bill

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 12:24 am

    That particular Vision is a beautiful bus George. Good luck! 🙂

    I’m a member of many bus/rv forums, as I’m sure many of you are. I even run my own forum at http://www.wanderlogegurus.com. The slide versus non-slide discussions are perrenial. I think bus/rv forums need their own version of Godwin’s law but with a slight modification of substituting hitler with slides! 🙂

  • Bryan

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    George,

    Based on the pictures, this is very clean looking unit. There are at least a couple Vision owners in POG. I don’t know if there frequent this site. I can tell you both are very pleased with their coaches. Here my observations, based on the listing and the 2 Visions I’ve seen.

    Both Visions I saw were built on entertainer shells. That simply means you are 3 or 4″ taller than the motorcoaches. That extra height is inside, so more potential headroom.

    They have sound electrical systems. The ones I looked at were 24V coaches, rather than 12V. There’s nothing wrong with that. It seems strange to me that Vision didn’t use the one monster 50DN alternator popular on most all other coaches. They have 2 24V alternators. Not a big deal.

    The generator doesn’t have a start battery. No big deal and if you want to add one, it’s easy. I did one on a friends.

    I see this coach only has 4 house batteries. Unless you dry camp a lot and don’t like running the generator 4 batteries are plenty. If I recall correctly, one roof air can be powered from the inverter as a sounds of AC while driving. It may have been 2, I’m not sure. If you need roof air while driving, don’t be afraid of using the generator.

    I see both electric and probane cooking. My wife would love this one. Propane is unusual. I’ve only seen it in one other coach, a new one. Based solely on the picture, it doesn’t appear the propane tank is vented. It really should be sealed from the rest of the compartment and vented from the bottom. If not vented, it’s in the same compartment as 2 high current relays; the transfer switch and power protection system. I’d look to change this. Again, solely based on the one picture.

    The roof airs all look relatively new.

    Like others, I’m not a fan of the open toilet. To each their own on this one.

    I see it has ceramic or similar tile all the way to the door. On some coaches this would raise concern about the front axle weights. The Visions I know are not over weight with the or similar flooring.

    At least one TV has been upgraded to what appears to be a LED Samnsung. It at least has a digital (ATSC) tuner.

    Nice looking coach! BTW, you might want to change your profile so you can accept private emails.

  • Doug

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Thank you for all the comments I agree with the items you indicated that need attention. But as I see it thats the love of the hobbie. Making the coach yours and using it. The driver seat needs to be change to air ride, also the color of the other seats. The title will be change in time. The most important item is to verify the service records along with inspection report. All that have written their thoughts have been very kind and helpfull. Can’t wait to be able to help other and be able to put a face to a name. Yes my wife will be a very important part of this transaction. Remember man can not live on bread alone. I will check my profile.

    george

  • George

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    Before changing to air ride Seat. Might be a little less expensive..The longer wheel base normaly gives a better ride. Just a observation.. Bob Also front tire pressure. Bob

  • Archived

    Member
    June 19, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Thank bob, I will drive it for first thanks. Profile updated

  • Archived

    Member
    June 20, 2014 at 8:27 am

    we take whacks at each other all the time in good natured fun. So keep posting and don’t be afraid to look at a non slide bus, we just turn the key and go while our slide buddies are dumping tags, pushing buttons hoping their slide motors or seals don’t break or the bus fails to go in gear because of a 100 micro switch that’s going to cost them 3,0000. See what I mean!:)”

    Boy! Do I have a toad for your new bus Tom.

  • Greg

    Member
    June 20, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Sign me up, is that Gunny driving?

  • Archived

    Member
    June 21, 2014 at 7:49 am

    That toad would work for us if it is in front of the coach so Di can shoot the morons. The little gun would have to be replaced with a cannon however.

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