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  • KVH C3 Sat Dome Removal

    Posted by Archived on June 25, 2013 at 6:27 am

    The old C3 KVH is now off the bus and for those with a Liberty, if
    you ever wondered how Liberty did the install, here’s a picture. The
    mounting platform is made from aluminum and the sat dish bolts
    directly to the platform, easy removal and install of the next dome.
    KVH back in the day, used a total of 4 separate wires, 2 coax, power
    and data. I’m going to replace it with a King Dome KD-5500 and go
    with Dish for HD, using the “pay as you go plan” and the best part,
    single coax from the dome to the receiver, no new wires or cable
    runs. Can’t wait to trash all the old cables, wiring, TV and out
    dated AV stuff, looks like a bomb went off in the salon AV cabinet.

    Archived replied 13 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 12 Replies
  • 12 Replies
  • Archived

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 6:43 am

    Not in motion?

    We use our in-motion to listen to XM music when rolling.

  • Liam

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Don’t need no stinking motion and why do you need XM, you already have a thousand tunes programmed in your Binford 6000 tape player!

  • Archived

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Tom,

    Always great to see the pictures. You may want or even need to upgrade the coax cable. If it’s not too hard to replace ithe coax run, it has had a lot of UV exposure and may not be the right cable. I think they spec RG-6, but you will want to verify.

    I too listen to XM, but I use the XM antenna. I can’t see running an in motion dish to just listen to the radio.

  • John

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 10:33 am

    While you’re up there, you might want to conside taking off what appears to be a cellular antenna and probably not used. You could use that penetration for the coaxt cable which would limit the cable exposed on the roof.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Wow, Sir Jon has really come a long way, XM Radio, In motion Sat, what happened to the 8 trac player with all the Lennon Sisters and Ink Spots music? I am really impressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Liam

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Hey Buddy,

    I’m a big time techie now. My Bose media centers hold 3600 tunes so I can play them back in shuffle mode and probably drive around the country before they start repeating. I have a built in GPS, I have one of those fancy flat screen TVs, slides, Crestron, and I can even watch Fox and Friends while driving down the highway or if I go to channel 802 on my in motion satellite I can listen to 50’s on 5 which on Direct TV is called Malt Shop Oldies.

    I haven’t yet got past my flip phone, and I cannot play my 78 RPM version of “Yes We Have No Bananas”, my 8 track is missing, and I never owned an “I” anything, pad, pod or phone.

    And Gil………again…..coaches are different. My coach like Tom’s has a cell antenna. Our coaches come equipped and are hard wired for cell service. I use a device called a Tellular SX5T which is a black box cell phone. It is powered by 120 VAC and has telephone jack(s). In my coach I connect a 4 telephone system so we have phones conveniently located throughout. Folks that know me know that on the rare occasions when I do carry my cell phone it is even rarer for me to actually turn it on. But they also know I ALWAYS have the bus phone on and it has an answering machine so even if we can’t answer we can get messages.

    Tom’s coach was originally set up with a cell phone black box capability also.

    As to the use of the cell antenna hole for wire, Tom already has the wiring in place from the KVH. He doesn’t need to run any other wire, and in fact is going to have to abandon one additional coax plus I think 4 other wires since he will only use one coax.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Yep, RG-6 and just fine.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 25, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Yes Jon and that’s why I told Tom he might want to use the cellular antenna position for the sat cable and yes I read he wasn’t going use all of the currently ran wires or cables. I was simply giving him something to consider.

    I too have a cellular antenna on the roof. It’s doing nothing as I suspect most others are also abandon. Although it can be used, as yours is, it’s probably not ideal for that application. I’d have to look it up, but I suspect it’s not cut to the current mobile frequencies.

    If or when I replace my satellite antenna, that is positioned like Tom’s, I’ll try to use the cellular antenna roof penetration. In my case, my current cables run all the way to the back of the coach on the roof.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 26, 2013 at 7:27 am

    Gil,

    The reason I am not going to use anything except one of the existing coax cables is because my vintage Liberty has all the AV components, Sat Receiver, DVD and Bose in the cabinet located on the stbd side of the salon that also functions as a keyboard and printer storage. There are no storage or devices in the Liberty dash overhead other than the TV and it’s done so well, I can’t even think about taking anything apart, so I have to stick with the cabinet.

    You can see the cabinet in this picture with the lamp on top.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 26, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Great looking coach. I hear you on running new cables. It seems an area where the converters sure could help us out.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 26, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Running cables is and always be a problem. What most do not realize is we have conduits running beneath the floor from front to rear. Within them are some spare wires provided by Prevost.

    Our conversions on the other hand do not make wiring after the fact easy. I have made a lot of mods on previous coaches and a considerable amount of time is spent disassembling parts of the coach so I can run my wires as part of the wire bundle run by the converter. Nobody will ever see it, but I am much more comfortable knowing I made my mods look like they were an original part of the coach and not some afterthought.

    The inability to run wiring without significantly adding a disproportionate amount of time to the project has stopped me from doing some things I would like to do, such as a BR ceiling fan in the previous coach.

  • Paul

    Member
    July 8, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Mission accomplished… Replaced the old KVH with a Dish KD5500B, HD sat and Dish VIP211K receiver. Swaped out the old TV with an HD Flatscreen and everything works great. To keep from running an HDMI cable from the sat box to the TV, I used an IOGear wireless HDMI transmitter/receiver and that’s the only way to go. Total cost for the upgrade was 12000 and it all looks great. The Dish, pay as you go, allows you to turn on/off the service for 30 day periods with no fee’s, setup or any additional charges. It can all be controlled online.

    Liberty and their thoughtfull approach to things made the sat swap a breeze. The aluminum platform in my first picture is bolted to the roof. They drilled and tapped to the roof cross braces. All it took was removing 8 bolts and off the platform came. I then modifed the platform for the new sat footprint and bolted it back on.

    Here’s a pic of the platform removed.

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