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  • Archived

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    Chad, I have towed my 85 El Camino with a 427 and 4 speed manual several thousand miles. It is the only 4 down towd I have been able to back like a trailer. I swapped to a VW Bug standard because my wife did not like driving the El Camino and I got tired of the complaining. Like all my fun cars 93 Alante, 09 XLR, 85 El Camino it is basically a 2 seater. Actually the VW Bug is also a two seater even though it has what is laughingly called a back seat. As far as V tails go I flew many, many hours in my E-35 with 250hp upgrade and Hartzell prop as well as my J-35. Took my mom in the E-35 and she loved that plane because she said it made gas. Took off, drained the left main, then drained the Aux, then drained the right mail and still had a full left main. Bonanza pilots will understand.

    Burro

  • Jon

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 3:34 pm

    We need to get an airplane forum started. I suspect that we have a number of airplane folks amongst us.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 4:46 pm

    I believe I had a couple of rides in that VW a few years back, Fred. They were much appreciated! My bus has come a long way since that visit to ETLC. Jenny moved back to England to finish school, and is now heading back to St. Maarten in the fall.

    My K35 had the 10/side aux tanks. I had to fly a half-ball out of center to get them to feed somewhat evenly. I still left about 2 gallons in one side. Learning to juggle those tanks made flying the V35 stone simple. Running tanks dry was always my practice, too. That way I knew how much I had left, and exactly where it was!

    I found a really nice El Camino down in Texas a few weeks ago. It was even built in Kansas City, but the damn thing was purple! Couldn’t do it. 🙂

  • Archived

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 7:58 pm

    Jon and I are both pilots and previous aircraft owners, if there is enough interest a topic could easily be done.

  • Chad

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Hey, let’s get back on topic here! This happened a few weeks ago about ten miles from me. Maybe I should have just towed the Twin Bo:

    https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/beechcraft-twin-bonanza-plane-lands-on-i-470-past-douglas-street-in-lee-s-summit/article_86ec3154-9a08-11ea-aa2c-9b6b789dc053.html


    1984 96" with 8V92TA

    (remodeled Liberty Coach)

    Greenwood, MO
  • David

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 8:42 am

    The article said one engine failed. Can’t a twin Bo fly with one?

  • Chad

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 9:59 am

    It actually flies great on one if you have the airspeed. The pilot and I are both on a Beech forum. He said he was slow on final and felt the plane would flip if he added enough power to make the runway.


    1984 96" with 8V92TA

    (remodeled Liberty Coach)

    Greenwood, MO
  • Chad

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Lower the nose a little and air speed comes up real fast. Or at least it used to.


    1984 96" with 8V92TA

    (remodeled Liberty Coach)

    Greenwood, MO
  • Archived

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    Jon, that doesn’t work so well close to the ground. 🙂 There has been plenty of second-guessing his decision, including from the FAA inspector. He has to take a 709 ride. I thought that was a bit excessive.

    I’ve been calling on Jeeps the last few days. I’m surprised so many around here don’t have air conditioning.

  • Archived

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    Add me to the list of second guessers with one exception. If his target airport was a short field and he was slow and dirty his decision was right no matter what second guessers like me say.

    But if his runway was ample I will put my name back on the list of second guessers.

  • steve

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 2:35 pm

    I just looked up the Lee’s Summit municipal airport. Shortest runaway of 4000 feet should not require low and slow approaches.

    With a landing distance of a little over 1500 feet there was no need to slow to a dangerous single engine speed necessitating a highway landing that could have had a bad outcome.

  • Chad

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    I have a 2011 Jeep Rubicon 4door with a 6.4L Hemi in it that would look great behind your bus. Base plate installed and ready to tow. You can have a hotrod and a Jeep. Message me if interested.

    David


    1984 96" with 8V92TA

    (remodeled Liberty Coach)

    Greenwood, MO
  • Archived

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    Chad,

    He has to take a 709 ride. I thought that was a bit excessive.

    For us non pilots could you explain a 709 ride ?

    AL

    FWIW dept….

    Some times I find it a little negative when someone Monday morning quarter backs an emergency situation.

    Make a decision in a micro second and as it unfolds you’re committed to it. Other then a mile marker sign post cliping a wing tip.

    All is good and everyone walked away.

    AL

  • steve

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    Al, it’s basically like having to retake your driver’s test. I think they can make you test for every qualification you have, or just things related to your “deficiency.”

  • Per

    Member
    June 22, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    Chad, call me. (404) 626-6226. I’m a retired FAA General Aviation Operations Inspector and your buddy may be able to make use of a little help. And for what it’s worth, I think he did an excellent job and I’ve seen all of the videos. Tell him not to take the 709 until we talk and preferably, side step any further conversation with the FAA until we talk.

    JC

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