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  • How to find size of holding tanks?

    Posted by Harry on August 5, 2017 at 10:44 am


    I have the build sheet from Prevost on my bus and know I have a 160 gal diesel tank. How do I find out the size of my black, gray and fresh tanks?

    Somewhere I remember hearing my bus has a combination gray and black tank but I don’t know where or from whom I heard it? I’d like to know for sure and I’m getting nowhere trying to find out on my own.

    I frankly hesitated asking this question because I know what I’m going to hear from Jon. You see, Jon believes just because you have a horseless carriage doesn’t mean I shouldn’t know about the horse… What? Yes, yes, yes, the Jon principle of relativity means pressing every button thing, pulling every pull thing, turning every turn thing and toggling every toggle thing and that’s for the first hour?” And when you’re finished with that Pilgrim, “run everything that’s runnable and do everything that’s doable and then do it again so you don’t forget.”

    And folks that’s just the inside of the bus! Once Jon gets you outside things really really get going! And Jon for the last and final time… I’m not going to lick my fingers to check all the 24 volt wireing in my bus, I’m not an idiot! You almost got me on that rotating the air in the tires though. Luckily Tom told me that’s only necessary for the tag axle!

    I’m sorry Jon if I’ve taken away all your best talking points!

    Harry

    Archived replied 9 years ago 12 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Harry

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Hey Harry,

    What happened to HJ ? Been wondering about You and Your coach. Have You got it fixed yet ?

    Bsafe,

    Rocky

  • Andy

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    Hey Rocky,

    What happened to HJ is a very sad story… The day you and I met at ETLC Jon, Tom and I went to lunch, I begged them to take me along of course! There I explained how half the people who know me call me HJ while others call me Harry. When asked which I prefer I said HJ and Tom said OK, Harry it is and changed my forum user name right there with his phone. I told you its a sad story and I’m sure you’ll hear conflicting reports from them… But who You going to believe Rocky?

    As for my coach it’s still at ETLC but I have it on good authority it’s in good hands which is frankly a concern of mine because I don’t have Allstate! Look, if you guys know nothing else about me you know I’m not prone to exaggeration. With that said I can say this. My bus is still at ETLC and here’s what I believe is going on. Jeff plans to charge me so many $$ knowing I can’t possible afford it. Then sell the coach, pocket the money, move to Venezuela replacing the current despot, saving the country from a ruthless dictator while setting up a new country and starting a raid on Guatemala!

    This is what I believe,

    Harry

  • John

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    I’m just curious since capacities seem important, my question is why?

    I have no clue and had no clue about any of my capacities. If I knew them I think it would lead to determining how many minutes of shower time we were allowed and how many toilet flushes it would take to fill the holding tank.

    I do know we can live in the coach for a minimum of 5 days without dumping or filling, and 7 if we get stingy with how much water we use.

  • Harry

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 3:03 pm


    Hi Jon, I think that’s probably right, I’ve not thought about it that way? Everything you read about coaches mentions all the specifications and the tanks are of course part of it. I’ve not filled or drained tanks as yet and I’m especially curious if I have a gray and black or a combo tank?

    If anyone knows I’d love finding out. I guess this is one of the negatives of owning a bus when the converter is out of business. But I think it’s one of the few because the Beaver Coach reputation is excellent!

    Harry

  • Archived

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Harry,

    If you can measure the tanks you should be able to convert to gallons (volume).

    Our tanks are listed at 189 gallons each (one fresh tank, one holding tank).

    Example: (you can pull up a conversion calculator on google).

    Volume = Length x Width x Height

    Let’s say our tank is 70 inches long, 18 inches wide and 32 inches high (estimating the measurements).

    70x18x32=40,320 cubic inches….

    Using a conversion calculator, 40,320 cubic inches would be 174.54 gallons.

    Mark

  • Dick

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Harry (AKA HJ)

    Since your coach is at Jeff’s, you might want to call him and have him change out the blinker fluid in your turn signals. Wouldn’t want to be caught in a DOT inspection with low blinker fluid. I am sure Jon forgot to mention that little check while tweeking all the little tweekable things.

    Just trying to be helpful.

    3-F

  • Mike

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 5:17 pm


    Wow Mark, I appreciate your help I really do, but if I got under the bus to do that I can almost guarantee my wife would be inside working the airbags!

    And Fred I’ll talk to Jeff about the blinker fluid, I’d not want him missing something so obvious!

    Have any of you had a combo black/gray tank? I have a feeling that’s what I have and is there any positive or negitive of having it?

    Thanks as always for your help,

    Harry

  • Archived

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    Harry,

    I can run a measuring tape on the top of our tanks pretty much from the end to end. Of course it’s easy to measure the width and height as it’s right there in the water bay! You will have to deduct any indentions in the tank if not square (if you can see them). I haven’t taken any ‘hard’ numbers for our tanks and will do that when I’m back at the coach in two weeks.

    We have the combo black and grey tank. I just can’t see any negatives having the one combo tank. We have a grey water bypass valve (air operated) that I can let grey water run on the ground or I can screw a hose on the end and run the hose to a flower bed or water a tree.

    I really like the bypass option.

    Good luck and don’t get under the bus!

    Mark

  • Mark

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Harry, you write the best posts!

  • Archived

    Member
    August 5, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Harry – Remember, you take care of your beaver and your beaver will take care of you.:) Where is Leslie Nielsen when we need him…

  • Glenn

    Member
    August 6, 2017 at 9:07 am

    If you don’t have a conversion calulator, and you can see tank, in inches, measure, length x width x height divided by 231. We learned this in junior high harry. Really that’s the only thing I retained and haven’t used it a bit.

  • Adrienne

    Member
    August 6, 2017 at 10:48 am

    . HJ,

    I am going to call You HJ , I have a combination black / gray tank. It is 100 gallons on My coach. My fresh water is also 100 gallons. My tank monitors are possessed , and I cannot rely on them. So I have put a hillbilly monitor on the side of My fresh water tank. If You empty Your black/gray tank. And fill Your fresh water tank. And can monitor the fresh water level. When Your fresh water is getting low, then Your holding tank is getting full. If You have the same 100 gal/100gal setup. I also have the gray water bypass like Mark. It is a nice option to have sometimes. Long showers will fill a tank up fast. If both of Your monitors are bad , You are screwed. It is a guessing game.

    Another tip for You on the holding tank. Do not leave Your valve open if You are setup in a site and connected to sewer. Some tow behind campers do this with the mentality that they do not have to worry with dumping their tank. And probably because they have low capacity tanks. They will have solids accumulate in the bottom. Let Your tank get near capacity then dump. The surge of all the water should take most all of the solids with it. Make sure You have a good seal on Your dump hose or You will need Golashes. Tom can probably give You a little insight on that. Rubber Dr gloves , The kind You hate to see Your Dr lube up. Are a must have item for handling the dump hose. And no , They are not re-usable. Throw them away !

    I hope You get Your coach on the road soon. I look forward to reading about the adventures of HJ.

    Bsafe,

    Rocky

  • Archived

    Member
    August 6, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    First of all I’d like to thank you one and all for your contributions except for those who didn’t contribute… Thanks Tom! 🙂


    After reading your posts on this thread. I went back and reread all my posts here on the forum to see if I could determine where it was that I so completely mislead you? I read every word, every sentence, every paragraph and meticulously studied every idea and nuance to determine how I led you so wrong. I found absolutely nothing to make any one of you to think I can do math!


    And Rocky thanks for the tip that disposable gloves ain’t re-usable? I intended to keep the used ones in our silverware drawer! I may not know math but come one! 🙂 Ah “the adventures of HJ”, it conjures up all kinds of things doesn’t it?


    I got the answer to my tank question from “Jim, The Beaver Coach Expert, Lane” and I tanked him very much! Some call him a Seer, some a Soothsayer and still others a Thaumaturge. I for one call him “The Big Kahoona From East Altoona! He believes I have a 70 gal. gray tank, a 50 gal. black tank and a 100 gal. fresh tank. He’s checking with the owner of Beaver Coach #25 who has the same configuration. One thing that may have helped Jim a little is I came up with this picture. 🙂


    Top of water bay

    Bottom of water bay

    Does anyone know why the foam around the base of the black thingy? Thingy, wow I’ve sure learned technical stuff since being here on the forum! You guys must be so proud…

  • Kirby

    Member
    August 6, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    The foam is likely to fill the hole between the bay bottom and what is passing through the hole. Openings have to be sealed of the bus bays become homes to all sorts of living things.

  • William

    Member
    August 6, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    It’s an anti bug sealing device for the framulator Harry.

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