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Harsh words from a guy who drives a stick shift Ram pickup. Jeff and I understand each quite well. he wants my money and I want to keep some of it .Im thinking of asking him to adopt me cause he feeds the family so well.
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Conversation overheard at East Tennessee Luxury Coach while under a bus…
Jeff – Red, I need a bar
Red – a bah
Jeff – no bar
Red – ya I said bah
Jeff – what’s a bah
Red – jeez, you know, a bah
Jeff – could I have that thing that looks like a crow bar
Red – sure, but crows cah, you know, cah, cah, cah
Jeff – I thought that a cah was a car
Red – hell no, a cah is cah
Then Jon showed up! What the £}%^+ are you two talking about……
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Damn Tom you have been out west too long. Neither jeff or I can figure out just what the hell you are talking about. Hey Nancy get that boy home real soon before he goes off the deep end !
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Jon,
Have you been in the squeezin’s – again? Plymouth made the Prowler, an underpowered – pre Hemi, factory street rod. A small block 340 would have been a great alternative for the Prowler. Dodge on the other hand made and is resuming production on the Viper.
I’ll give you a pass on this mislabel since Dodge’s wonderboy put out a publication in 2003 that claimed Dodge built the Hemi’s that were so famous in drag racing from the 1950’s into the 1970’s. Of course he was wrong since those Hemi’s were made by Chrysler until 1958. Back then Chrysler, Dodge and DeSoto each had their own unique line of Hemi’s. Plymouth had none until the around 1968 and it ran until around 1974.Of course, as you know, you need cubic inches and compression to make horsepower. Chrysler’s Hemi’s went from 301 in 1950 to 331 to 354 and finally to 392. Having built the 354 and 392 versions I can say my favorite was the 354. It had a short stroke with a large bore cylinder. Short stroke – RPM’s; large bore – Torque. Now that is a good combination. Oh and hold a bare cylinder head up, look into the exhaust port and you could see directly out the intake port. Unbelievable air flow. Great engines just very heavy with thick wall castings. Head alone went 75 pounds; engine complete and dry ran around 850 pounds.
Of course, Dodge now is the sole manufacturer of Hemi’s – I hate to say it – for Fiat! 152,000 + and climbing on mine right now. Wonder what upgrades I can make when it comes to rebuild time?
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Will,
If the red head wants to pick on Corvettes, we Corvette owners will feel free to categorize a Viper as a Plymouth.
I hope you noticed he hasn’t refuted that description so it bears repeating from time to time.
He did recognize my Ram 2500 as the correct product to be driving so you and I can take pride in the fact he is at least willing to cut us some salck.
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I was actually being polite Jon . I was allowing for your advanced years and my dear old mum always told me to respect my elders. By the way, the vipers were sold and raced in Europe as Chrysler Vipers. Dont ask me why.
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Chrysler powered, read 354 cu in Hemi’s, from the Briggs Cunningham race team finished in 3rd and 5th places. The list of competing vehicles does not show any Corvettes. Oh, that’s right, they came out strong in 1953 with a brutish 235 cu in six cylinder! Yeah, I rebuilt one of those too, since I was embarassed driving Carole’s 1957 4 -door Bel-Air beside the River Charles in Watertown, Massachusetts. Got parts at Dick Pratt’s Speed Shop in Watertown. I asked him what was the largest over size piston listed in his parts book. Turned out to be .120 over, which is big, and with 9.5:1 compression. Dick said I would always have overheating problems with the thinning of the cylinder walls. Turned out not to be a problem, and yeah it would run heads up with the early generation Mustangs. Maybe that has something to do with my defense of Red in these threads. I can understand what he is saying, when he says it.
BTW, in the early 1950’s Chrysler Hemi’s also dominated NASCAR having sent the Hudson Hornets into retirement.
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And now Chevy’s have everyone else in the weeds, and Chrysler Corp has given up its place in Nascar to Toyotas which run on specially formulated sake.
FWIW we have driven Mopar since the late 60’s and I cannot think of any time since then when we have not had a Mopar product in the garage. Ditto with GM, Corvettes since 1965 starting with a 327, 300 HP split window coupe I bought used.
Every Ford we have owned has has a flat head V8, 2 1929s, 2 1937s, and two 1950s.
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