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  • Getting ready to install Generator

    Posted by Mike on February 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    Hey Bob, I what to ask a few electrical related questions that pertain to generator hookup to the electrical panel. I will be using a 15kw diesel generator that has a single phase and 3 phase option, Do I need to regulate the current from the generator to the electrical panel? If so, How would I do this? Seems to me if I have 240 volts from the generator to the panel it would work without a regulator! Am I right or wrong? Thanks for the help!

    glen replied 12 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Robert

    Member
    February 9, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Most of elect guys can help.. no need for 3 phase.. my thinking is don’t install anything that you can’t get at a campground. To make it simple the 240 will have basically two hot legs (120 Volt ea) going to your power pannel and a common. (often refered to as a ground) Common wire color is normal White—A safety earth ground is seperate from gen set and box =Green.Not really complicated but maybe something better explained one on one. I will see if I can find a referance diagram to explain.. Does your gen set have built in circuit breakers? if so how are they marked? Make of gen set would help also. Bob

  • Archived

    Member
    February 9, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Yep, I will not need the 3 phase at all. Should not affect connecting at a campground. Will check on the breaker! Its a Sullair 15 kw with an air cooled diesel engine. I’m thinking the generator its self will regulate the voltage at the 240 volt outlet. Will get back with you on the breaker size. I’m using a 200 amp main panel (which is changeable to 100 amps if needed) to wire to because it’s free, new and has breakers for my house electrical.

  • Archived

    Member
    February 9, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    You will want 120/240 split phase, if that’s an option. This is what you get at a campground. This has 240V between two hot leads (L1, Red wire and L2, Black wire). Measuring voltage between either hot lead (L1 or L2) and neutral, white wire, you will read 120V.

    The regulator should be integral to the generator.

    I assume you will be using a transfer switch. If not, I suggest you reconsider as it transfers voltage and neutral between commercial and generator power.

    I’m guessing you need to do a really good shop building the sound enclosure. An air cooled engine should be a lot louder than a water cooled engine.

  • Archived

    Member
    February 10, 2014 at 11:29 am

    Mikie T,

    Is this a new store bought generator? If not, you might go online to the manufacturer’s site for information. Wife won’t let me near electrical projects anymore. Something about relocating a wall light switch hot, when the hot hit the BX flexible metal sheath, sparks flew. Oh yeah, I was holding the hot cable between my knees – not too good!

  • jack

    Member
    February 10, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Generators
    normally have a voltage regulator; therefore, no regulator is required is
    require between the generator output circuit breaker and the main AC
    panel.

    There
    should be four main wires between the generator and the main AC panel. These wires are:

    • Two phase wires, (also called
      ‘Hot” wires, 240VAC between them, 120VAC to Neutral).
    • One Neutral wire, (should be at
      least the same size wire as the two phase or “Hot” wires).
    • One Ground wire, (runs from the
      frame ground terminal on the generator to the ground bus inside the main
      AC panel).


    There
    should also be ground wire from the bus frame to the ground bus in the main AC
    panel. Many people confuse ground and
    neutral wires. The purpose of the
    neutral wire, (usually white in color), is to provide a return path for 120VAC
    current to the generator. The purpose
    of the ground wire is to ensure that an electrically conductive surface, like
    the frame or aluminum skin of the bus, does not become a current carrying
    conductor when the insulation of a wire fails.

    In the AC
    world inside a bus or RV, ground wires only conduct when an energized
    conductor/wire shorts to conductive metal.
    When properly wired, this fault, (short circuit/ground fault), will
    cause the appropriate circuit breaker to trip.

    Improper grounding and/or mixing Neutral wires and ground wires can
    cause an electrocution hazard.

  • Larry & Diane

    Member
    February 10, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    To keep it simple for first time. Wire your gen set to a outlet just like the 50 amp at a camp ground. Available almost any where. Wire your camp ground cord to your electrical box.. when your in a camp ground/home=plug into their power..unplug and plug into box attached to gen set(with breakers on gen set off) start gen set. turn breakers on= power to coach via gen set. extra work but simple!!!! no transferr switch involved or worry about neutral ground bonding etc… If you want more complicated–we can do it! or you can ad those features later. Remember here most of these guys start out with transferr switches and inverters etc.. Basic they are doing the same thing but much more complicated.. remember to shut breakers off before transferring any plug ins then turn back on. Bob

  • glen

    Member
    February 10, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Keep it simple stupid. is what that stands for… that is what I was trying to explain. If you do it the more complicated way there is more to go wrong if you don’t understand it.. I tend to lean heavy on KISS..Have you already bought Gen set?? That’s pretty big; even though I seem to remember you saying something about some big HVAC units? 15,000watts divided by 120 volts = well over 100amp service.. your going to find some campgrounds with as little as 30amp 120volt only. The high end conversions are running big gen sets ; I really don’t know why?? Ck and see how big of wire it takes to handle 50 amps at 120 volts per leg..Just food for planning… Then check the wire size of a 50 amp rv cord . All kind of choices of lifestyles and where one wants to spend their bucks.. Bob

  • Robert

    Member
    February 10, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    Air Cooled??? I assume you have made provisions for both intake and cooling air? Might have to have some pretty big holes in the bays for that…..

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