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  • Future training seminar

    Posted by Jeff on December 20, 2019 at 7:36 am

    Looking for areas of discussion for future training seminars…If there is a topic you would like to learn more about please either email me or post it here. Trying to make sure that future training to be as informative as possible, with additional points of interest. Thanks in advance….

    Archived replied 6 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 9 Replies
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  • steve

    Member
    December 20, 2019 at 10:45 am

    Any proposed dates

  • Archived

    Member
    December 20, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    I know you guys have refined the material that helps the new and mechanically challenged member learn about their coach. A fair number of us have attended and have been helped greatly.

    For repeat attendees, would you consider addressing some popular upgrades. I saw a MobilEye ad in the latest FMCA rag. There has been a bunch of interest in LED headlights. Some of us are installing EasyStart for their air conditioners… Tom could demo his TPMS and discuss why some people have problems while others do not.

    Maybe some of those topic would draw a crowd. Do some Show & Tell and possibly invite a tech rep or two. It would be more interesting to have a little demonstration what the actual installation encompasses, for instance installing one LED headlamp would be quick.

    Some of the handy folks might give it a DIY try while others would be encouraged to have a shop (like ETLC) do the work.

  • Archived

    Member
    December 26, 2019 at 9:49 pm

    Not much feedback…

  • Archived

    Member
    December 28, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    Would enjoy a session for the new owners of legendary coaches.

    I am not able to invest into the higher price coaches as we can’t justify the price for those coaches as a utility in how we would use them. I however have realized the value of Prevost ownership. Look at the price of a 1998 Prevost compare to another 1998 non Prevost and you will find the quality of Prevost by any converter outweighs the competitors by a significant margin in retained value.

    I recognize there is no return on financial value to owing any coach beyond the pleasure derived from it’s use that one gains from using the coach for attempting to enjoy travel to the places that bring pleasure to ones dreams or desires to explore.

    Still trying to learn what is the inward components of the coach.

    Perhaps Jeff with vast knowledge of the Legendary fleet could focus on the legendary coaches with emphasis on thing that could prevent failures going forth in ownership.

    Jon on the Prevost community talks about 0 ing your coach

    for use.

    I think this is a avenue to explore. Make the selection for resale Prevost units better understood and continue to uphold the value of our owned units as prespective buyers are looking to buy a coach.

    My purchase was based on the conservation with a Prevost owner who convinced me in the quality that a Prevost offered over another quality brand.

  • Chuck & Katrina

    Member
    December 29, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Let me chime in on seminars. Tom, Jeff and I have done a number of them. Because of the number of different conversions, and the variations between even conversions from the same company our focus is heavily biased towards the Prevost chassis.

    From experience we know the most critical part of the use of the coach is the pre-trip inspection. Unlike the average car our coaches have a lot of systems we need to inspect prior to a trip. Our coaches are the equivalent of heavy commercial vehicles and need to be treated and driven as such so we have started every seminar by explaining how to do that pre-trip inspection. Not only does this address safety concerns, verification of the coach mechanical condition is best done prior to a trip.

    We then typically have put multiple coaches up in the air and everybody has been given a chance to see and understand more of the detail relating to the various systems and components, and not only what a pre-trip inspection should involve, but also what tasks someone servicing the coach must include to assure continued reliability. Tires get a considerable amount of attention.

    We talk about driving the coach, how to interpret what the gauges are saying, what is normal, what are limits, and how to respond to the various pieces of information.

    Common problems are covered, and what to do when a problem is recognized.

    While we cannot cover conversion specifics we do cover general converter systems, how they work, how to interpret potential problems, and who to contact for assistance. Included in conversion specific topics is likely to be information about inverters, batteries, A/C systems, etc.

    We are not trying to make owners into mechanics, but we do know there are things an owner should have on the coach such as tools and spare parts. We discuss those items, why they are important, and how to use some of them such as a multi-tester. Then we discuss how to “fix” certain problems such as a failure of a coach to come to the driving height, or how to lock a fan clutch if it is giving problems.

    We typically conclude the sessions with discussions driven by attendees. Since the three of us have had experience with multiple coaches we can address some(most) converter specific questions. We can show examples of things owners have done to their coaches to improve them, we can cover how to access the wealth of information on the Prevost Car site, and we do a lot of show and tell so owners themselves are teaching other owners their experiences and coach features.

    But the amount of prep work we three have put into a seminar is extensive. Jeff dedicates his entire facility to the seminar which means he is out of business until the seminar is over. Tom and I try to cover not only the syllabus but all of the details relating to arranging meals, having tables and chairs, coordinating presenters, including topics to relate to our attendees and their conversions, etc. We cannot justify the effort without a full class. We need no less than 20, and try to have no more than 25 so we have enough income to pay for the seminar, but not so many attendees that we cannot get specific for everyone’s concerns.

    Set a date, get enough members and we will have a seminar.

    This seminar will benefit long time owners, new owners, and potential owners. You will feel like you are drinking from a fire hose, but you get to keep the thumb drive with the whole presentation and multiple links on the thumb drive.

    The best part is you will share the experience with other owners and there is as much benefit in the after session discussions as with the two days of sessions.


    2000 Featherlite H3-45

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee

    Leesburg, FL
  • al

    Member
    December 29, 2019 at 10:08 am

    Jon:

    Your seminar I attended a couple of years ago gave me the final confidence to purchase my first Prevost. It has been as you say “drinking from a fire hose”. Having Prevost Community available has help fill in the voids.

    One thing I am seeing as I am now more involved in Prevost, is the ever changing electronics upgrades. CB’s appears to becoming a thing of the past, audio video equipment is changing from coax & RCA plugs to HDMI & wireless connections. TPMS now can be integrated into phones, laptops & some monitors. Even LED lighting has greater flexibility and choices these days

    .
    All these changes apply across the board to all makes and model years. Perhaps a part of a seminar could discuss upgrading options and the complications and or simplicity of doing so.

    Chuck

  • Gerald

    Member
    December 29, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    We often touch on and sometimes get into detail about the fast moving technology employed on our coaches. Jeff has extensive knowledge and experience and can elaborate to the extent required.

    Depending on who is attending, we may touch upon the Prevost use of multiplex, or we may have Tom get into detail regarding TPMS. Attendees drive the seminars. When we know the demographics relating to attendees we adjust how we address certain topics. We walk a fine line between trying to answer questions relating to a specific coach or system, and important general knowledge. We three are on site prior to and after the seminar so attendees can continue to ask questions and get specific knowledge.

  • Fred F.

    Member
    December 29, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    Something on fan clutches and something on suspension work. A arms, bushings, ball joints, etc. Mike

  • glen

    Member
    December 29, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    We cover them.

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