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I would have to agree with the merits of a single holding tank.
This decision is after owning a plastic coach and an Eagle bus conversion that we purposely installed separate grey and black holding tanks, thinking that was the way to go.
Speaking from experience, the solids tend to settle and you have to flush the black tank. Not needed with the one combined tank. I will admit we had a gravity commode in the previous two and now have upgraded to Headhunter in this bus. The Headhunter does almost macerate the solids and adds allot of water, and may do better in a separate tank system. I think the simplicity of the single tank is still a plus.
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I am drifting with the thread….
I can see the merits for a one tank system but it would never work for me. I guess that is another reason there are different converters.
We park at churches for a week at a time and very often we have good electric (many times I installed it on a previous visit) and access to water but no place to empty the tanks close by. With three of us taking showers, making dirty dishes that require washing and other general water use, we usually empty the huge gray tank at least once and sometimes twice during the seven days we are there.
If that gray water was mixed with black water, no matter how macerated it was, I could not water the grass with it, not that I would do that in some locations where they would throw me under the jail for it. But I keep 75′ of gray water hose in order to reach a distant sewer cleanout if I need to do so.
A lot of Pastors in dry areas say “Aim your gray water to that flower bed or that patch of grass and save us some water!”
Davy
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Davy,
What I forgot to include was the fact that our plumbing also has a grey water outlet that does not come from a grey tank, but is attached to a grey water loop. This loop allows the grey water to exit before it enters the combined holding tank.
So we can connect a hose and let the gray drain to the grass. It is a continuous drain though, and you have to be close enough to an area that would allow such drainage. Works great for us, we can go for a week or better without dumping as long as we can let the grey drain. Some state parks do not allow grey drippage and others do not mind as long as it is routed out from under the bus. You have to check first. The majority of RV parks have sewer now anyway.
Still may not work for you if you do not have an area like that. Again one system does not always suite everyone.
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Mark, I really believe you are out of line when you said the Marathon salesman doesn’t know what going on. Jim is one of the greateast guys I know and yes he knows his coaches!!! If you have a problem and he’s here in the park he will be at your door in a heatbeat!!! And if he’s not around Boater Al will be there and believe me he knows his stuff!!! I really think you need to take the time and reserch these fine machines first! If you keep knocking these conversions—-no matter what you buy you will fine yourself an ORPHAN COACH because nobody meets your standards.
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Sid, it was NOT Jim. I didn’t want to mention names.
I did meet Jim previously and he was a very nice guy. Another person flew in from Oregon to go on the test drive who is also a nice person but not quite up on the controls that Volvo is using now.
Jon, I know I will never know more than a Prevost converter salesman, I really just said that in gist. On car purchases, I really do seem to know more on a model that I’m looking at as I focus in on one model and read everything.
Mark
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Well MM I have to hand it to you ,you really know how to light up the switchboard. just between you and me are you really interested in buying a prevost or are you just having fun with the gang here ? Oh by the way say Hi to your dad for me.
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Mr. Mark
In my opinion:Why don’t you buy yourself 5 Monaco’s for the same price you would give
for a Prevost. forget about a Prevost as it will not work for you. You are a Monaco guy. I really believe you are here
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Easy boys…… I believe MMark can buy a Prevost, a Newell or anything else he may want without breaking a sweat.
It’s easy misread what someone is saying by posting, that’s the problem with all these forums. You mean to say one thing and it gets twisted around to mean something totally different to others. If we were all sitting around under the awning this 133 reply topic probably would have taken 20 minutes or at least a beer and lots of good natured harrassing included.
OK, I’m done, continue on….
PS – MMark, this is a very brand loyal bunch.:)
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Hisham,
That’s really funny! A Monaco guy? What was your first coach before you bought a Prevost?
Well, I have to say that I read about motorhomes for 7 yrs. before having my Dynasty built. I rented three units before that to make sure I wanted a class A (1 class C and 2 class A’s).
Just let me know where to send my financial statements.
We had our current and only coach built in Oregon and have enjoyed our decision as we had it built just the way we wanted it.
Now, I want to move up the ladder for our one last ‘big’ coach. That’s why I have been reading since last June and recently found this Prevost community site. I have learned so much and still have more to learn.
Safe travels to all.
Mark
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If MM owns an ’08 Monaco, and he spent 7 years reading about it before he bought it, it sounds to me like he spent more time reading than owning.
Personally, I don’t care whether he buys a Prevost, a Newell or a Winnebago. Nor do I have any interest in his financial statements.
It is possible to research something to death hoping to realize that “perfect” whatever. It simply isn’t going to happen.
We all share the same RV lifestyle and friendships no matter what we drive. Few people get to experience it and fewer still in a Prevost bus conversion.
The important thing is to get out there and have some fun!
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I cannot speak for everyone else, but when we bought our first coach (an 87 Liberty conversion) we didn’t have a clue. But we were lucky because as we found through 15 years of ownership it was a great coach had a great layout, was nicely equipped, and was very reliable.
When we bought the second coach we were more discerning, but the bottom line is we got three things that were important to us. We got long range fuel (no longer available), a private toilet room and OTR. We didn’t get the dinette booth or the living room layout we wanted, but that coach was as enjoyable as the first. Actually we enjoyed it a lot more because it was very easy to live in.
Our present coach is the best we’ve had, but it still isn’t perfect. None are. Apart from having to like the colors and layout and not including a detailed inspection it literally takes us about 20 minutes to decide if we are going to buy a coach or not. If it was my sister-in-law that had to make the decision, she would still be trying to decide if the first coach was one we should buy.
Different strokes for different folks.
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Well said Jon.
If you are looking for perfection, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. No coach is perfect.
My wife and I are much more impulse buyers than “research” buyers. Accordingly, over the years we’ve ended up having more fun than money.
And we wouldn’t have it any other way…..
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I would stop and help you on side of road , just good old ranch people here Bob ,and for that matter any body on side of road!!!!!
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Bob I stopped many time to help others I would also do the same for you and any out there on the side of the road.
Mr. Mark
I don’t need your financial statement as it is not my
business. How you choose to spend your money is your business.Our first RV was a camper, then a pickup truck with camper
top, and the third was a GMC that caught fire on the way back from the Grand
Canyon. The 4th RV was a 1997 43 ft. LXI Bluebird Wanderlodge, the 5th was a 2006
Bluebird Wanderlodge 45 ft.M450 LXI. The Prevost is our 6th. We have also had
multiple airplanes. By the way, all these
toys were paid for in cash.I don’t believe in analysis by paralysis, whether it is a an
airplane we are buying or a motor home, we find something we like, we buy. We
try to understand what is out there before we do anything but we don’t try to berate
every rv/ motorcoach manufacturer. Each has its own positives and negatives. It
also depends upon the owners use and purpose. If you want to buy a Prevost fine, but don’t keep downgrading the salespeople and their product knowledge.
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